Comments on: Comparable Careers By Quality and Shape

By: Mike Goodman

Mike Goodman — Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:58:55 +0000

Win Shares are highly dependent on the team a player is with, so it's really just a randomizing factor here.
As such, you'll get opposite types like Heinsohn and Battier, rather than actually similar players.

By: Travis

Travis — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:50:54 +0000

Gary Payton's 1999 season was abbreviated (for obvious reasons). Not that it throws a monkey wrench into the observation, but he'd look slightly better with another 10 to 11 WS season in his column, and bring him marginally closer to Bryant.

By: Neil Paine

Neil Paine — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:43:53 +0000

Part II:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=4631

By: Neil Paine

Neil Paine — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:47:29 +0000

Yeah, I'm definitely going to work on a follow-up this afternoon that gets all of these requests. In fact, hopefully I can make a table that literally has comps for everyone, or Justin can make an app that lets you search for comps, or something -- somehow we'll figure it out.

By: Jason Lisk

Jason Lisk — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:56:32 +0000

Scott Wedman, Otis Birdsong and Phil Ford.

By: Ricardo

Ricardo — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:40:16 +0000

Bobby Jones.

By: P Middy

P Middy — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:12:49 +0000

Drazen Petrovic

Sarunas Marciulionis

Mark Price

Scott Skiles

John Starks

Derek Harper

Thanks!!!

By: Gabe

Gabe — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:45:38 +0000

Chris Mullin
Paul Pressey
Fat Lever
Marques Johnson
Sidney Moncreif
Mitch Ritchmond
Bill Walton
Max Zaslofsky

Thank you!!!

By: Ian

Ian — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:09:30 +0000

I'd love to see comparisons for some of my favorites:

Adrian Dantley

Dikemne Mutombo

Jerome Kersey

Hersey Hawkins

Xavier McDaniel

Detlef Schrempf

Brandon Roy

By: AYC

AYC — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:35:00 +0000

Neil, your comment about old-timers getting short changed due to shorter seasons brings up a pet peeve of mine; why do we always see total win-shares used rather than WS per game, or per minute?

Nobody thinks Kareem is the best scorer ever because he's the all-time leader in points; we all know points per game is a better measure, and consider MJ the best scorer ever accordingly (putting aside the importance of shooting percentages). Even in baseball, they finally realize per-game stats are better than totals.

Anyway, I would love to see WS per 82 games, and WS per 36 min on the leader page.

PS Can anyone explain to me why advanced stats underrate Larry Bird so much; how is it that Reggie Miller rates as a better offensive player? WS seem to both underrate Bird on offense and overrate him on D.