Comments on: Break Up the Heat! http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: khandor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-15735 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:07:41 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-15735 Neil and Justin,

PART 1

1. There are now 2 weeks left in the NBA's regular season schedule and the Miami Heat:

i. Have had a relatively healthy Dwyane Wade in their line-up for the bulk of their games to-date;
ii. Have a 42-34/.553 W-L record [i.e. 8-2 in their Last 10, 7 wins in a row]; and,
iii. Are in 5th place in the EC and playing their best basketball of the campaign, as they gear up for the playoffs;

while, the Toronto Raptors:

i. Have had an up-and-down campaign to-date;
ii. Have a 37-37/.500 W-L record [i.e. 5-5 in their Last 10, 2 wins in a row]; and,
iii. Are in 8th place in the EC and preparing to be eliminated from the 1st Round of the playoffs by the Cleveland Cavaliers.

In sharp contrast to what many NBA observers might have thought about the quality of this year's Miami team during the pre-season and the early season schedule, when it was expected that the Heat would experience a drop-off in performance this season ... the fact is ... this has not been the case, at all.

Instead ... as I first suggested back in early November ... Erik Spoelstra has done an excellent job this season, Wade has been solid throughout, the bit pieces they have added have worked out [for the most, Rafer Alston not withstanding], Chalmers and Beasley have each made progress, and Udonis Haslem has been outstanding.

PART 2

The Washington Wizards have been an unmitigated disaster ... which, unfortunately, can happen sometimes when an organization is willing to roll the dice on a loose cannon, or two.

PS. Justin, please know that "friendly" wagers are strictly for pride, and never profit. :-) Customarily, they are made between individuals who have a healthy degree of R.E.S.P.E.C.T. for one another's disparate opinion. Hopefully, you will be able to do well again this year, if allowed to participate in Henry Abbott's "post-season picks" competition for NBA "experts" [i.e. cognoscenti, bloggers and stats gurus]. Basketball-reference.com and this blog [which, I think, Neil maintains] is a wonderful resource for everyone who loves the game. Please keep up the good work!

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By: khandor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13210 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:05:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13210 Justin,

1. I've said nothing "silly" in this thread.

2. Neil and I made a friendly wager concerning which team will end up finishing higher in the EC standings this season, Miami [my pick] or Toronto [Neil's pick].

3. If Neil would like to critique my assessment of the Wizards, as another team in the EC that I think will probably end up finishing ahead of the Raptors this season, as well, I'm perfectly fine with that. I merely made him a friendly offer to make that claim a public one, and then time will tell which one of our perceptions eventually turns out to more accurate.

4. Why do I visit this blog?

For different but inter-related reasons, including:

i. It's the blog provided by basketball-reference.com, which I happen to think is a fabulous resource for accurate data related to the NBA.

ii. To exchange ideas about the game with others who think they already have an accurate understanding of "How it actually works in the NBA", with the intent of increasing the knowledge-base of all visitors to this sight [e.g. Neil, me, you and everyone else].

Whether, or not, I think the notion of "statistical sample size validity" has little significance in a "proper understanding of the NBA game" is not the determining factor behind my decision to participate in the discussions about the game which take place here from time to time.

PS. I have noted with interest your participation the last few years in Truehoop's "NBA Playoff Picks Contest" for certain bloggers and reputable "analysts". Anytime that you would like to engage in such a contest with me, know that it would be an absolute pleasure to do so, from my perspective. Healthy, fair, and [most importantly] friendly competition can be a good thing in terms of sharpening one's instincts for and insights about the game. :-)

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By: Justin Kubatko http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13199 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:31:20 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13199 This is silly. First, Khandor, no one who works for this site will be making any wager with you, friendly or otherwise. Second, if you don't find the information on this site or in this blog to be of "significant" value, then why are you here?

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By: khandor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13198 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:32:40 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13198 Neil,

Would you like to make the same friendly wager with me regarding the Wizards [2-6] and the Raptors [4-4]?

PS. Small sample sizes are only of concern to whose who consider that type of statistical information to be of significant value in the first place. Thankfully, I don't fit into that specific category.

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13194 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:44 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13194 That's (40*(pts/MP))*(lgPace/tmPace), so it's just the typical "Hollinger Method" of scaling a rate up/down based on team pace vs. league pace.

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By: Mike G http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13193 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:07:53 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13193 "... with Dwyane Wade powering the attack (via 31.8 pace-adjusted P/40) ..."

I'm not aware of previous reference to pace-adjusted scoring rate. How does this work? Why per40?

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13191 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:39:44 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13191 It's been two weeks, dude. The Heat are playing well, that's why I wrote this post. But man, you really do jump on every little excuse to toot your own horn, don't you? And how 'bout those Wizards, by the way? (See, I can take a random early-season example of a prediction where you were wrong and mention it, too! Small samples are fun!)

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By: khandor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13190 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:16:31 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13190 In addition to what these "simplistic" game stats reveal about the performance of the Heat, thus far, re: the effectiveneness of their line-up with Chalmers, Wade, Richardson, Beasley and O'Neal, know that the fine work of Udonis Haslem has not gone unnoticed by astute observers of the NBA game.

Unlike others in the on-line hoops community who critiqued my contention this summer that Mr. Haslem [PF] is about to have a better season for Miami than Elton Brand [PF] is for Philadelphia, some of us know full well that the best understanding of the game is not to be found in the number crunching of performance averages but in how real live players actually fit together, or not, vs specific opponents on the court, when considering all three main phases of the game, i.e. Offense, Defense and Rebounding. :-)

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By: 123 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13188 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:39:24 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13188 Nice wrap-up. Liked it alot more than the basketballprospectus version which failed to credit Mario Chalmers and just seemed to make it look like luck

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By: khandor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952&cpage=1#comment-13186 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:09:06 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3952#comment-13186 Neil,

I don't recall the specific terms myself, other than you've got Toronto and I've got Miami to finish higher in the standings this season, as a friendly wager.

From my perspective, as a Raptors fan, it's really a win-win situation.

As long as D-Wade remains in good health, Miami will retain a spot in the middle tier of the EC this season because [1] he is just THAT good, [2] their pick-ups of Richardson and Arroyo are good fits with their team, [3] Erik Spoelstra is going to become a solid NBA head coach, and [4] their core group will have had one more year to grow together.

As you know by now, I am not someone who is afraid to let his Basketball Acumen do the talking for him ... rather than searching for a "magical formula" to interpret how the game actually works with unerring accuracy on my behalf.

Cheers

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