Comments on: ‘Black Holes’, Position-by-Position

By: Johnn19

Johnn19 — Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:35:28 +0000

The top 3 passing/playmaking PG's in the NBA
Assists per 48 mins

Nash 16.3
Rondo 15.5
Calderon 13.9

Fits in with your numbers.

By: Esquire

Esquire — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:44:31 +0000

I was not surprised at all to see Travis Outlaw's name on the list. As a Blazer fan I got to watch this guy up close for several years... it got to be funny to watch guys like Aldridge freeze him out of the offense... where most players would keep rotating the ball, I saw several Blazers are multiple occasions look over, see that the next rotation pass was to Outlaw, stop, turn and reverse the rotation. Outlaw's game is... catch the ball, dribble going left, stutter-step, step back, hoist up 19 foot jumper from the left elbow... miss, repeat. I'm so glad he's not in Portland anymore.

By: Downpuppy

Downpuppy — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:30:23 +0000

It means there are only 12 centers in the league playing 30 minutes a game, including 6 born in the US.

I guess all the athletic 7 footers are going into scuba diving.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:03:51 +0000

i'm not really sure what it means, but half of those centers' names start with A.
Pretty fucked.

By: anon x 2

anon x 2 — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:23:51 +0000

Raul, probably a good thing. Can't remember the last time a sub 17% shooter at the PG spot led his team to a title. Don't say Rondo, he was not a top 3 offensive player on that 2008 team and didn't play 30 mins multiple nights.

By: Raul

Raul — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 02:28:50 +0000

Oh wow, look where Derrick Rose falls in the point guard category. He's not a point guard, he's a shooting guard masquerading as a point guard.

By: anon x 2

anon x 2 — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:58:24 +0000

I am surprised to see Pau Gasol get the 3rd most touches pr minute. Not only that, but he shoots at the same rate as Kobe with those touches!

Any chance we could get Bynum's numbers? Especially compared to last year. He seems to be passing more; I'd like to see if that's right.

Thanks.

By: James

James — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:37:30 +0000

Where's Damarcus Cousins? He's a supermassive black hole if ever I've seen one

By: Eshan

Eshan — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:47:48 +0000

Well this kinda puts a dent in all those Kobe-hating black hole arguments. And yeah LeBron gets mad touches even with Wade and Bosh on that team

By: Neil Paine

Neil Paine — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:47:02 +0000

Sure -- in fact, that's what Ziller did in his original article to spark this whole discussion. You could just use touches as the other axis, especially since touches/min are highly correlated with passing (by definition in this estimate, as well as the fact that passes simply happen more frequently than shots, fouls, or turnovers).

Between 2 guys with the same pass% (i.e., Batum/Gay), the guy with the higher touches/min is being the bigger black hole because you would expect someone with more touches to have a higher pass%.