Comments on: Layups: SBNation GM Rankings http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Ricardo http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21386 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:40:52 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21386 "Next year we'll see more stat geeks scratching their heads trying to figure out how the Lakers won so many games despite mediocre advanced stats, while attempting to explain why the Heat won way fewer than 68 games that their models predicted. It'll be fun."

Here are my predictions:

1) The stat geeks and their laptops will predict x number of wins for the Lakers and Heat
2) The Lakers and Heat (and all the other teams) will win about the same number of games as predicted, barring extreme circumstance
3) You won't be around to spout excuses and platitudes

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By: JG http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21361 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:24:36 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21361 Lakers had a 4.8 efficiency differential in the regular season, then beat teams with differentials of 4.2, 4.9, 5.8, and 4.3 in the playoffs. I'm not seeing the failure of advanced stats in this case, and that's before accounting for regular season injuries and the fact that the Lakers had an efficiency differential of about 8 in 2008-09.

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By: Caleb http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21358 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:02:39 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21358 @Daniel

"Looks like the key to winning championships is to have the 13th best GM"

That was an opinion piece, from another website, and it wasn't based on statistical analysis.

"a "superstar" who is not even in the same area code as Lebron James and is the second best player on his own team"

He may not be the best player on his team, and his advanced stats aren't really close to James... but his stats are still very, very good as are Gasol's. "Stat geeks," as you say... all recognize the power and talent of that duo.

"and a leading 5-man unit with chemistry rating of 0."

That chemistry rating, as far as I can tell... seemed to be mostly be just an experiment. No one claimed its results should be taken as gospel. Just something interesting to play with and see what happens.

"Unfortunately the Lakers don't pay attention to advanced stats and keep winning championships."

lol... I doubt there's a single team that doesn't pay attention to advanced stats at least a little.

Basically what you posted is just a series of strawman arguments. Its the same type of thing Joe Morgan does... misrepresenting ideas to make them look silly to people who don't know much about them.

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By: Anon x 2 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21343 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:01:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21343 i do believe the lakers org pays attention to advanced stats, fwiw. They just don't talk about it openly.

Kobe receivers synergy style data/video for his opponents as well.

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By: TheBulge http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21338 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:02:18 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21338 "Unfortunately the Lakers don't pay attention to advanced stats and keep winning championships."

They still have an amazing group of talent. I don't think anyone is surprised by their success. And Kobe is in LBJ's area code, just not his zip code.

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By: Daniel Song http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21283 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:38:48 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21283 Looks like the key to winning championships is to have the 13th best GM, a "superstar" who is not even in the same area code as Lebron James and is the second best player on his own team, and a leading 5-man unit with chemistry rating of 0.

Unfortunately the Lakers don't pay attention to advanced stats and keep winning championships.

Next year we'll see more stat geeks scratching their heads trying to figure out how the Lakers won so many games despite mediocre advanced stats, while attempting to explain why the Heat won way fewer than 68 games that their models predicted. It'll be fun.

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By: Anon x 2 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21277 Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:55:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21277 I'm with you, Walter.

Also don't see how RC Buford is so low. Riley so high because of the trio choosing to come for less? Credit, sure..but what else has he done. His drafting has been sub-par and trades haven't really worked out. Both Mitch and RC should be ahead.

And apparently Baron Davis wasn't a significant FA signing for the clippers. huh?

I'm sure if Webber had a vote, Kahn would be last.

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By: Walter http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21274 Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:50:53 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21274 A little disappointing in seeing a list wth Mitch Kupchak ranked 13th! How can the GM of the back-2-back champions not "better than average".

I can't really think of a single bad move Mitch made over the last 3 years.

Traded Brian Cook and Maurice Evans for Trevor Ariza
Acquire Gasol in a heist
Brought back Derek Fisher
Signed Ron Artest
Resigned Odom and Kobe
Now with little money available he strengthens what was one of the worst benches in the league by getting Blake, Barnes, and Ratliff along with two very solid picks for the 2nd round.

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By: David Fauber http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054&cpage=1#comment-21268 Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:06:17 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7054#comment-21268 Prada of all people should know the only correct choice for #30 is Grunfeld.

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