Comments on: Layups: The NBA Finals… of Complaining, That Is http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Matthew http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524&cpage=1#comment-18662 Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:41:39 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524#comment-18662 Haha, Jason J... "If a player is holding you all game and then jerking his head like he took a jab from Chuck Liddell when you raise your arms to break free."

If you didn't say you were talking About Fish here, I would be 100% you were talking about R. Allen. Because he does that to Kobe. and so does the other Allen. So

And you can't hit a player on his elbow when he shoots, I thought that was common knowledge? Well, obviously not to Bostonians, who apparently are in unison with their team's coach, the players and even the major. In their ongoing whining of course.

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524&cpage=1#comment-18657 Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:02:23 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524#comment-18657 Ha, yeah, good point on Fisher. He only complains 38% of the time, probably because he knows how fortunate he's been on the dozens of other calls that he tricked the refs into giving him.

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By: Jason J http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524&cpage=1#comment-18655 Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:55:38 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6524#comment-18655 "Mr. Shuttlesworth took issue with 73% of the calls that went against him, easily the highest rate in the series."

And Derek Fisher flops on 97% of plays with contact, to the point that JVG was pretty furious about while announcing game 5, so it's kind of hard to be too down on Allen. If a player is holding you all game and then jerking his head like he took a jab from Chuck Liddell when you raise your arms to break free... like Van Gundy said, Fish has been doing it for years.

Then on the other end, I can think of a number of phantom fouls that Allen picked up trying to cover Kobe including a clean block on a three pointer Bryant took and a play in the paint where there was no contact at all. Which is fine. That happens all the time, but you could see how a guy would get frustrated when he's consistently being whistled at both ends for calls that range from questionable to blatant deception by Fisher.

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