Comments on: Layups: Clutch Players and Wall Street Bankers http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: DSMok1 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420&cpage=1#comment-18307 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:02:10 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420#comment-18307 A good rough estimate of the value of a player's contributions in crunch time is:

((TS%*2*(1-1.357*TO%))-.878)*USG%*90.131

That accounts for scoring rate and quantity. Incidentally, going off of the 82games.com clutch data ( http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM ), Lebron has been the best. When adding in assists also (the equation for that is a bit iffy--I'm working on adding in credit for assists and subtractions for being assisted), James is still the best, but Nash is close.

Top 10 scoring only:
Team Player Scoring
CLE James 12.10
POR Webster 8.55
DAL Dampier 7.75
DET Hamilton 7.68
DAL Nowitzki 7.58
PHO Nash 7.14
HOU Landry 6.80
LAL Bryant 6.60
CHA Murray 6.40
PHI Williams 6.30
(the numbers are in pts added/48 minutes)

And including assists:
Team Player Total
CLE James 13.37
PHO Nash 11.81
NOH Paul 8.76
DEN Billups 6.72
LAL Bryant 6.50
POR Webster 6.15
DAL Nowitzki 5.98
POR Roy 5.47
DET Hamilton 5.43
DAL Dampier 5.38

I'm still working on a comprehensive way to included assists in the equation listed above.

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By: P Middy http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420&cpage=1#comment-18303 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:19:11 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420#comment-18303 My feeling (i.e. unsubstantiated in anyway) has been that clutch players maintain their level of play in crunch-time, whereas everyone else wilts slightly under the pressure. It would be interesting to see % of decline in eff during minutes 44-48 of games where scoring diff <5 points.

What are the things players deal with in the crunch?

Clock management
Stress/Pressure/Excitement
Less officiating, more contact
Intensified crowd noise
Rhythm interrupted by frequent time outs

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By: el_horse http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420&cpage=1#comment-18289 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:32:44 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420#comment-18289 I think you should look at percentages rather than total points. How many of the team's shots 'clutch' players shot/made and how many (relative to the whole team) points they scored

Pure scoring doesn't tell us anythhing as you said above

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By: Federico http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420&cpage=1#comment-18281 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:07:35 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420#comment-18281 I pretty much agree with Jason J. While most players will shoot the ball when they have a good look, waiting for that moment to come, clutch players know its crucial to score in that possession, so they feel they have to manage a good shot. I can't remember where I read that Kobe shoots a certain percentage in all of his shots. It doesn't matter if it's a wide open mid-range jumper or a contested deep three pointer. Of course there's a difference, but you know what I mean.

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By: Myles http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420&cpage=1#comment-18269 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:30:03 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420#comment-18269 What about the possibility that every players' performance suffers in clutch situations? If a player performs still performs better relative to his teammates in this case, I would still call him clutch.

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By: Jason J http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420&cpage=1#comment-18262 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:47:34 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6420#comment-18262 Neil, that report might not point to the players actually raising their games in the clutch, but it does show a willingness to take shots in clutch situations. I wonder if that isn't the key factor to being considered clutch by the masses, taking enough that we remember the makes.

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