Comments on: Early Fishin’ Trips… With the NBA’s Best Players

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:58:14 +0000

Perhaps more interesting is that we have not had ANY of the top 3 players (by Win Shares) win the championship since 2003 ... Perhaps this is a consequence of the new rules ... it only happened 88-90 with the Bad boy TEAM - when MJ was great but didn't play on a great team and again in 1995, when Olajuwon's Rockets beat both The Magic and the SAS on their way to an upset championship, Dream missed 10 games that season, but with Clyde on the team didn't need to carry as much of the load.

By: Caleb

Caleb — Mon, 04 May 2009 19:33:53 +0000

"Well, it’s clear that Paul isn’t one of the 3 best players in the league."

Huh?

By: Regenerator

Regenerator — Mon, 04 May 2009 16:30:48 +0000

Oh, yr right, Dirk isn't one of the best players of the last 5-7 years, but Manu Ginobli is?! Give me one fact to back that up. Dirk led the league three years straight in Win Shares, as you can see here. He lead twice in that period in Player Efficiency Rating. His overall career efficiency numbers compare favorably with none other than Larry Bird! Don't like complex or potentially misleading/vague metrics (as some may call them)? Ok, here's some hard facts - Dirk won MVP of the freakin' league in 2007. The two years previous to that he was 3rd in voting. I'd say that, combined with some of these other numbers, indisputably makes him one of the 3 best players in a span of several years. Still not convinced? Oh, Dirk's MVP season was a joke because he choked in the playoffs, you might say?? What about the fact that Dirk is one of only 5 players EVER to average 25 points and 11 rebounds per game CAREER in post-season play. The others are Shaq, Elgin Baylor, Bob Petit, and Hakeem. Does that list look impressive to you? You see Tim Duncan on that list?? Or even Larry Legend? The point isn't that Dirk is better than some I've mentioned (certainly he's better than Ginobli or Vince Carter, for god's sake), but just that he absolutely, unarguably DOES belong in the discussion of best players in the league, and has for most of his career. I guess people will always just refuse to give Dirk his proper dues. It boils down to this - Dirk is an absolute, sure-fire 1st ballet hall-of-famer, and if you don't know that, you are not an informed fan of NBA basketball.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 02 May 2009 19:14:22 +0000

Well, it's clear that Paul isn't one of the 3 best players in the league. Just like David Robinson wasn't better than Olajuwon and Moncrief and Dantley weren't better than Magic. We shouldn't be surprised by results like this when we're dealing with such an imperfect measure of value. Any formula that makes Dirk look like the best player of the last several years is clearly flawed. And I am not a Kobe fan. Personally, I think LeBron and Wade are the only 2 players in the best player conversation. Give me healthy Duncan and Ginobili after that. I'd take a motivated Vince Carter over Bean...

By: Tsunami

Tsunami — Fri, 01 May 2009 20:49:07 +0000

Guaranteed that Rick is a hyperventilating Kobe fan.

By: Caleb

Caleb — Fri, 01 May 2009 17:18:23 +0000

LOL @ Rick. You're joking right?

By: Rick

Rick — Fri, 01 May 2009 11:43:44 +0000

2 of the top 3 players? I'm sorry but kobe and lebron didn't lose their series' so i have no idea who you are talking about. win shares? honestly? stop using completely lame random stats and you won't find statistical anomolies like this. 2 of the top 3 players lol...that's some good stuff you're smoking.

By: jeremy

jeremy — Fri, 01 May 2009 03:24:50 +0000

dirk catches a lot of flack for being so high so many years

By: hurley

hurley — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:40:18 +0000

Kobe and Wade huh

By: Tsunami

Tsunami — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:35:47 +0000

ROFL @ Ahmed