Comments on: How Much Would Losing LeBron James Hurt the Cavaliers? http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: UB http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19995 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:49:20 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19995 I don't think you can use plus/minus that easily. Just taking a pair of players that were right around the .100 WS48 range last year on the same team:

Russell Westbrook's SPM is +3.8
Jeff Green's SPM is -4.2

That's an 8-point swing for players with identical WS48s. So I'm not sure that an 'average' player has a +0.0 plus-minus.

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19905 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 11:22:27 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19905 Thanks Anon, I'm going to add their link to the sidebar.

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By: Anon x 2 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19899 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 05:33:02 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19899 er, $46 million

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By: Anon x 2 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19898 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:28:56 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19898 "They're on the hook for $49.3M right now, assuming LeBron isn't back:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

Cap is like $56M, so they would basically have an MLE-style amount (which is intended for a "league average player") to spend on a replacement. My guess is they would move Jamison to SF, start Varejao, and find a center somewhere... Whatever they do, that's probably a .500 team at best."

It's actually more like $50 million. Hoopshype is not accurate. Always use Sham Sports for salaries. http://shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp

Also West is unguaranteed, only $500k counts against the cap when he is released (assuming not traded). They can be at $46.5 total after waiving West and renouncing rights should Lebron leave.

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By: Jayson http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19890 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 00:43:04 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19890 The one thing is (even though it is not tangible), the fact that Cleveland's offense was highly dependent upon Lebron James. He was their main scorer and main distributor and the fact that he was so ball-dominant was (in my opinion) a huge reason why they were so putrid and anemic without him on the court. You give the same Cavaliers team a training camp without Lebron and a balanced system like the Princeton offense that Byron Scott runs and I see them still being a fringe playoff team.

$0.02.

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By: Jason J http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19889 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 20:44:06 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19889 OT - Neil, has any research been done on the impact of pace and minutes per game on DRtg? I'm wondering if there's a similar correlations btwn the amount of work a player does on defense and the Usage / ORtg relationship.

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19888 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 20:07:24 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19888 They're on the hook for $49.3M right now, assuming LeBron isn't back:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

Cap is like $56M, so they would basically have an MLE-style amount (which is intended for a "league average player") to spend on a replacement. My guess is they would move Jamison to SF, start Varejao, and find a center somewhere... Whatever they do, that's probably a .500 team at best.

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By: Jason J http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-19887 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:59:42 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6812#comment-19887 If they lose Bron, they are still over the cap, right? So getting an average replacement would be about the best they could expect.

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