Comments on: Ray Allen’s Hot Streak http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Onu http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18288 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:18:59 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18288 Been thinking about this a lot recently, and I’m increasingly of the opinion that the issue lies with an understanding of what hot hand means.

First, lets be clear that ‘average’ means exactly what it says. It is not the representation of any given game, but a collective assessment over a wide range of games. The actual experience in any given game of that average is virtually always going to be different from ‘the average’- apart from that fluky game where a player shoots his exact average!

In that context, I think that what ‘hot hand’ means is that in this particular game, a player’s scoring mechanics are most finely aligned (tendons and ligments, mental game, e.t.c) while in a ’slump’ they are most off. So in game 2, for some reason, Ray’s shooting mechanics were about as sharp as they can be, while in game 3, they were as off as they can be. In game 4, they are more likely to return to an intermediate state, in which the actual manifestation is more in line with what has been seen before (5/7, 3/8, 2/5 shooting nights, that kind of thing).

The issue I see with statistical statements that say a certain sequence is bound to happen even randomly is that it obscures what is going in the mind and body of a player, which is not entirely random at the point of experience. Rather I believe what should actually be indicated is that for any given good basketball player, there is a very high likelihood that playing mechanics will be so finely tuned that an exceptional game will result at some point, and that we should not be surprised if that happens.

The surprise comes if that exceptional occurence happens for so long that it appears to be a performance even beyond the rare exceptional performance expected from good players. At this point, we could maybe call it the 'miraculous hand' and make a much bigger deal out of it :) Thus to my mind, it is entirely okay to believe in the 'hot hand' and note those performances, as long as hot hand means the rare occasions when a players entire playing tools (mind and body) are entirely in sync. Perhaps Neil you could do a spread analysis on the Ray's shooting percentages so we can see the most exceptional shooting games (or streaks of games?) he's had (good and bad) and we can term his experience in those games 'hot hand/streak' or 'slump'.

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By: P Middy http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18250 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:44:36 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18250 The Law of Averages is a stone cold beotch.

Game 2, Ray goes for 8 for 11 from 3.
Game 3, Ray goes for 0 for 8 from 3.

8 for 19 = 42.1%

His playoff average? 41.6%

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By: Brian http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18208 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:26:58 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18208 See also this important paper, which critiques the null hypothesis testing approach to evaluating the hot hand. Using formal model comparison, the author found that models positing variation in "true" skill level fit observed basketball data better than models than posit one static "true" skill level.

http://tinyurl.com/38spklr

Detecting the Hot Hand: An Alternative Model
Yanlong Sun (Yanlong.Sun@uth.tmc.edu)

Abstract
The belief in the hot hand was suggested to be a “cognitive
illusion” since no significant evidence was found in the
basketball-shooting data to reject the simple binomial model
(Gilovich, Vallone & Tversky, 1985). The present study
argues that in order to evaluate the validity of human
perception and cognition such as the hot hand belief, a datadriven
approach is needed to compare multiple alternative
models. A hot hand model with nonstationary shooting
accuracy was tested and showed significantly better
approximation to the data than the binomial model, indicating
that the simple binomial model may not be accurate enough to
serve as a normative model. This finding suggests that the hot
hand might indeed have existed, and weakens the argument
that the hot hand belief might be “seeing patterns out of
randomness.”

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By: Ryan. http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18206 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:52:52 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18206 Why are we using the term "supernatural" to begin with?

Athletes can increase their vertical leap on any given jump at any given time due to VARIOUS factors, of which some are mental above physical. This has been documented multiple times in sports analysis and is and echoed by pro-ball players often.

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By: AYC http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18205 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:44:41 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18205 What is the supernatural cause of the mysterious "Ice Cold Hand" I wonder?

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By: Ryan. http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18203 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:12:19 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18203 Beat me to it, Joe.

Jesus,Ray (no pun intended), way to play the ultimate turnaround.

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By: Joe http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18202 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:04:14 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18202 How many times has Ray Allen 'missed' eight threes in a row.

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By: Mike G http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18154 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:05:49 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18154 Does anyone doubt that, for example, golfers have massive hot and cold spells?
There's no defense in golf.

An opposite extreme is the playground basketball skirmish where everyone is his own 'team'. Jim gets hot and goes a couple of baskets ahead; the game (for everyone else) becomes "stop Jim".

If Jim is hot enough, he'll win on shots beyond his normal range. If it's random luck, he'll be shut down quickly.

Nick Anderson, a 70% FT shooter, went 0-4 at the end of a Finals game. This will happen one time in 80. Then he went on to shoot 40% for a whole season. Then 64%. Without defense.

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By: DSMok1 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18147 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:44:13 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18147 Yeah. How does one measure for it, though, if the defense is likely to immediately adjust for it?

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353&cpage=1#comment-18142 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:11:08 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6353#comment-18142 Well, that would just mean the null hypothesis was that the hot hand exists, and the burden of proof should be on the numbers to prove it doesn't. I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm just saying that's what a statement like "if there is no evidence of the hot hand, then we should take that as evidence of a hot hand" means. If the null hypothesis was that there wasn't a hot hand, then under the same logic, the lack of evidence that there wasn't a hot hand would be evidence that there wasn't a hot hand. It all depends on what the default assumption is -- and we've all seen the conventional wisdom's default assumption be wrong before.

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