Comments on: Layups: NBA 2K11 Ratings http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: jeu http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-52056 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:29:06 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-52056 Is it just me, or are fast breaks horrible??? What Center, or any other player in the league do you know consistently catches up to Derrick Rose, Shannon Brown, or John Wall on a fast break? Yet whenever I play with these teams and my player breaks away all alone in the open court for what in real life is an easy dunk or lay up, it seems at least 2 of the opposing big men somehow get into position and squash the break! Why do runaway lead men on run towards the sidelines instead of straight toward the basket for the outlet pass for an easy dunk or lay up??? Why is dunking so hard? I hope NBA 2K12 fixes these issues...

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By: Travis Yaylor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-43888 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:18:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-43888 i deleted some game but still not working

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By: Travis Yaylor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-43773 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:04:05 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-43773 but how do i delete my games

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-43284 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 03:03:05 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-43284 Never happened to me, but my PS3 HDD is nowhere near full... This thread might help:

http://www.ihav.net/vb/games/my-game-keeps-glitching-checking-hdd-space-1433620.html

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By: Travis Yaylor http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-43280 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:50:31 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-43280 UGH. major issue..

my game will not get past the first screen. i “press start” and it goes to “Checking HDD Space” and will not get past it. And i have a playstation three any help please
and it is also nba 2k11

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By: Anon http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-29872 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:42:37 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-29872 "I'm an individual players' numbers (and their application) skeptic."

Which makes you a numbers skeptic (and it is in this sense I meant in my post).

Obviously it is a team sport, but there are ways to attribute credit to individuals for what they do on the floor. Don't think you're the only one who has thought about the issues that you presented. But you treat it as a round peg in a square hole problem, which it is not - especially if you build your models based on observing how the game works on the floor.

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By: Gil Meriken http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-29866 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:27:57 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-29866 68. I'm not a numbers skeptic (as I mentioned before I have a math degree, so I'm not exactly opposed to numbers), I'm an individual players' numbers (and their application) skeptic. The team analysis is very valid - because it's clear what the objective of the team is, and it's very easy to measure - score more points that the opposing team. With individual players, it's not so clear, the numbers currently being used for analysis (including plus/minus) do not accurately reflect the contributions of each player. For example, a player does not score a point - it's a combination of the player and his team, and for every player and play that mix is different, the same goes for every box score statistic, rebounding, assists, everything.

If the empirically derived data for individual players is junk, you're going to get junk output.

Thanks for trying. Stick to science. Basketball stats are not as "hard" as you are making them out to be. Rebounds are not equivalent to an observation of velocity in physics. Counting assists is not like counting heads in a census survey. I believe in gravity. I don't believe the way that individual statistics are parsed gives any meaning in a team basketball sense. Has nothing to do with Kobe. Even if your view of the world (just data manipulation, almost numerology, which is objective with its set of rules to follow) said Kobe was the best, it still wouldn't be valid.

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By: Anon http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-29675 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:10:27 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-29675 Why are you even here if you're such a numbers skeptic Gil? Are you already bored of the million Kobe fan sites that you probably should be visiting instead?

But if the um, EMPIRICALLY derived data doesn't satisfy your obvious bias, you can always make up your own stat that makes Kobe the best player in the league. Granted, it wouldn't have anything to do with figuring out how the game works on the court, but since it's all about making the evidence fit your theory instead of the other way around...

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By: Gil Meriken http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-29553 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:33:09 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-29553 65. That's what people who don't know what "objective evidence" is say to people who do understand what it is.

Nice try, thanks for participating.

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By: Curtis Blow http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534&cpage=2#comment-29548 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 00:52:50 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7534#comment-29548 Carmello was the third leading scorer in the league last season (AHEAD OF KOBE) and carried the nuggets all season so how the heck is his rating to high? if anything it should be higher. Clearly you dont your players. but other than that i do disagree with the ratings the majority of the players got.

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