Comments on: For James, East Final Is an Ex-MVP’s Shot At Redemption http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49712 Fri, 27 May 2011 04:24:36 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49712 Game Notes:

(1) It used to be that if you caught a pass with 2 hands on the ball and 1 foot on the floor------that your anchored foot became your pivot. Now players---all of them---HOP after catching the ball. Every league I've ever played in that was a traveling violation. The NBA logo should be updated from West dribbling to LeBron hopping.

You get a travel called on Korver for catching the ball, then sliding his left foot and picking up his right before he dribbles (which IS the right call), then Wade holds the ball out in both outstretched arms/ hands while taking 3 giant steps toward the basket-------and the announcers say nothing. Why is there such a problem with calling traveling when it occurs?

LeBron travels CONSTANTLY------not because he gets special treatment---------but because he possibly does things that are traveling violations more than anyone else does... and NOBODY gets called for them--------unless you're Korver, then the ref acts like he remembers the rule(s).

(2) Kareem is awesome in that Priceline.com commercial with Shatner. Imagine Johnny Unitas or Joe Dimaggio ever doing that.

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By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49711 Fri, 27 May 2011 04:14:34 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49711 I wonder what Bucher's assessment of Rose is in Game #5. He probably saw a guy who now more than ever looks like the league's best player... I saw a guy missing 20 of 29 shots, often killing momentum & not really setting teamates up. I know he had 7-8 assists, but I saw nothing from him that facilitated others' play in the last Quarter and a half, at least.

Actually, sans a floater in the lane late in the 4th------I saw Rose killing possessions repeatedly single-handedly. Turnovers in passing lanes, and misses on drives to the hoop. Marv Albert was a broken record: 'Rose GETS A STEP...' then he finishes his freakishly quick move to the basket with a haphazard flip of the ball off the glass that NEVER had a chance (this kid has to learn ANGLES with these bank-shot flip attempts! He's just like a fat guy playing Pop-A-Shot in a bar, flipping the balls up------none of them REALLY aimed or shot, clanging off the backboard, missing the rim completely or hitting the ledge behind the cylinder and rolling off)... He's TERRIBLE finishing drives to the cup. He was 7/21 on 2pt FGA-------and a lot of them are missed drives.

He doesn't draw fouls in the lane-----and it's not like he is always needing to make a circus shot on a drive, either--------he just flat out misses them after getting by his guy and simply having to lift the ball over the help defender who's getting there too late to TRULY alter the shot (most of the time).

And this is the Bulls offense. Rose, who is NOT a good shot maker, dominates that ball and 4 guys scavenge for rebounds.

No offense to the Bulls (actually no offense ON the Bulls, either)--------but I'm looking for some darned shot making in these Finals--------and I can't look at that Bulls' offense another second.

Bring on Miami VS Dallas.

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By: Anon http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49698 Thu, 26 May 2011 18:43:29 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49698 Actually Huevon, while I don't always agree with Sean he's not a bad poster. But I'm not going to get in the middle of this debate here.

Ric Bucher is an idiot. He's a perfect example of why I don't entertain any "stats lie; just watch the games" argument. I DO watch the games, Ric. All of them. And you are wrong.

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By: huevonkiller http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49694 Thu, 26 May 2011 15:51:06 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49694 #117

Dude you've been freaking out for a while now. Chill out.

Like Anon said to other people, you need to realize your arguments aren't objective thus we don't care.

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By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49687 Thu, 26 May 2011 13:02:51 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49687 Ric Bucher DID have a vote-------and he voted for Rose. Which is fine. I would have voted for Dwight Howard, personally. But Rose is fine. What is NOT fine is making the comments Bucher made about Rose's performance after Game #4 VS Miami.

He's just in denial about Rose's performance, IMO. And I have to think that he's either consciously or subconsciously trying to justify his MVP vote----------which I think is unnecessary. Not to mention that Game #4 VS Miami is totally unrelated to regular season MVP.

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By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49683 Thu, 26 May 2011 11:40:23 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49683 I had 1050 ESPN Radio on yesterday and Rick Bucher (sp?) was insisting that Derrick Rose's performance in Game #4 actually enhanced his claim to best player (not just MVP, but BEST player). Colin Cowherd, who I'm not normally a big fan of--------called him out, justifiably.

Did Rick Bucher have a vote for MVP? I'm wondering if he is 'digging in' to defend his pick (if he did have a vote---and if that vote was for Rose).

Rose isn't the best player. A better argument could be made for MVP of the regular season for him... but regardless--------how can Bucher not just call Rose's Game #4 performance what it was?

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By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49681 Thu, 26 May 2011 11:23:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49681 @ 115 & 116... and I'm allowed to call you out when you're WAAAY off base about what my view is. Who ELSE is going to?

You should rethink your methods. The box you think in is teeny-tiny and your approach to discussion is worse than disasterous.

I'll talk about that area of basketball that frightens you because you can't box it in and quantify it like your disorder demands as long as such discussions exist here. You're certainly not going to extinguish them, though. You're not the least bit important regarding those discussions. You behave like an over-tired toddler who wants his Binky. Angry, lashing out, irrationally trying to control. Take a nap, kid. You'll feel better when you wake up.

With that, seeing as the value-level of discussion with you is essentially, zero------I will end this pathetic back-and-forth for the good of the other people here.

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By: huevonkiller http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49679 Thu, 26 May 2011 11:09:47 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49679 I'm allowed to think your views are naive, you should calm down.

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By: huevonkiller http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49676 Thu, 26 May 2011 10:31:52 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49676 No one forced you to spam this thread with subjective offensive diatribes, but you did. You can say you think defense matters, but you really have no clue why these teams failed.

The fact that you're wasting even a second of time on this subject shows you don't understand the tangible aspect of basketball.

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By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458&cpage=3#comment-49666 Thu, 26 May 2011 02:53:24 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9458#comment-49666 @ #113...

You're NOT sticking to what I said. You created a viewpoint for me based on the ridiculous activity of taking what someone (me) did NOT say------and making the opposite of such my actual point of view.

Your failure to admit this and 'own' it-----is pathetic.

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