Comments on: The Value of an NBA Draft Pick: Part II http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Kiran Rasaretnam http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815&cpage=1#comment-10685 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:35:01 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815#comment-10685 A Great post, especially with the upcoming draft. I also look forward to your next post - the "best" picks. I have a similar set of posts for the NFL, and only for quarterbacks on my blog. I actually started with a "biggest surprises" list - those who exceeded expectations. The harder one to do is the "busts", which I am currently working on. I hadn't thought of a "best" list, but I will now - good idea. I also like commenter Mike G's observation re: assessing the draft pick relative to the other players in the draft....

Keep up the excellent work.

Cheers,
Kiran

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By: Mike G http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815&cpage=1#comment-10682 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:05:30 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815#comment-10682 How about including the strength of a given year's draft class in the calculation?

Marcus Fizer was taken 4th in 2000, which was a very weak class: Kenyon, Stromile, Miles, Fizer, Mike Miller (ROY), Dermarr, Mihm, ... Almost everyone in this draft was a 'bad pick', relative to the average draft. Relative to what was available, Fizer might be about par.

In 1984 the 4th pick was Sam Perkins. Definitely solid in most years, he was a 'bust' relative to later picks of that year.

Knowing career WS for each draft class, how hard would it be to rank picks relative to their class?

The b-r.com Draft Search doesn't give players' Win Shares. It does give Allstar appearances and All-NBA 1st Team totals for different drafts, which I've summarized here:
http://sonicscentral.com/apbrmetrics/viewtopic.php?t=2244

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By: Jordan http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815&cpage=1#comment-10674 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:47:04 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815#comment-10674 I understand that the OG Kandiman was a horrific number one draft pick. He couldn't do anything right and despite being 7 feet tall, was a career 43 percent shooter, worse than most shooting guards. I understand that his net career WS is 2.4. But how can playing nine seasons, no matter how inefficiently, be of less value than playing only one season for a franchise? I don't get that.

I mean, the OG Kandiman made an appearance in National Lampoon's Van Wilder (Always remember to take a pregame dump), so that's at least worth an extra winshare somewhere right? And, just for kicks, it's interesting to note how the Clips at one time had both Kandiman, and the Candy man. All they need to do is hire Tony Todd as a color commentator or something and call it a day.

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By: Gabe http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815&cpage=1#comment-10672 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:37:41 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2815#comment-10672 I've never even heard of Lancaster Gordon or James Ray.

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