Comments on: Searching For the NBA’s Version of the Charlie Sheen Fiasco http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Quintin Faske http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-51473 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:23:11 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-51473 Normally I don't comment on your posts but I wanted to let you know I have placed a link to your page on my blog.

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By: Jason J http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44974 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:27:41 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44974 Shouldn't the Sheen figure have a beloved and even more successful father from the same field who tries to reach out and save him but gets rejected on national TV? Too bad Jellybean wasn't amazing, and his son recovered from offseason kneerapeallegationsurgery and ruined the story and my Celtics dynasty.

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By: P Middy http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44950 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:07:01 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44950 "Gilbert is a fool. Fool. Troll. Weak. Defeated. He allowed defeat to be an option. I will not."

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By: JM http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44949 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 15:55:49 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44949 I don't know if waiving a player is really the equivalent here. CBS hasn't fired Sheen, just suspended him for the last 1/3 of the season. They could still bring him back for next year, and given the cash machine that the show is, they may well choose to do so.

If we look at great players who were just suspended for major portions of the season, the list gets much longer:

* Gilbert Arenas (50 games)
* Ron Artest (73 games)
* Carmelo Anthony (15 games)
* Latrell Sprewell (68 games)
* Dennis Rodman (11 games)
* Kermit Washington (26 games)

I would vote for Gil as the Charlie Sheen of the NBA, not only because of his long suspension, but because of his bizarre media antics and the way those antics directly led to his suspension (which is analogous to how Sheen's rants led CBS to pull the plug on 3/2 Men due to public embarrassment).

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By: P Middy http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44938 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:23:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44938 I think I am with Bryan on this one. If we believe the conspiracy theories about Jordan's 1st retirement, he's the only one of them who after the whole fiasco could sit there and point to himself and say, "WIN."

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By: Max http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44902 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:25:50 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44902 Marbury doesn't work because the Knicks were definitely not a winning team when he left

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By: Greyberger http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44901 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:12:30 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44901 Ron Artest! Credit to thirteen, Artest is the closest thing you have to Sheen.

1. Bright Future.
2. Warning Signs.
3. Key Moment.
4. Irrevocably Public Madness.
5. Breaking up the Band.

A lot of people think the Pacers had something special going in that '04 season. And 2005 was Artest's best chance to shine. The only difference is it's suspension/trades that ended the Artest era.

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By: Bryan http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44896 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:52:39 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44896 If you believe in the (unfounded) rumors that Michael Jordan's 1st retirement was actually due to his gambling problems, he fits the model pretty well.

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By: Kevin Hartrich http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44894 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 00:47:06 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44894 How about T-Mac before went to NY? He on paper was still very talented, he wasn't happy, wanted changes, and the show got canceled (Rockets missed playoffs) after almost beating the Lakers the year before.

The best example though is the Artest melee

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968&cpage=1#comment-44885 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:59:45 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8968#comment-44885 Good point, although I wasn't sure how much of a role that played in the Detroit situation (I thought that was more about insubordination/his refusal to go to the bench than anything else). Also, his daughter's health was brought up a great deal with regard to his departure from Philly a second time, although Stephen A. Smith did report on the alcoholism as well:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4975922

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