40 Most Underrated & Overrated Seasons of the Decade
Posted by Neil Paine on August 6, 2009
Recently, Football Outsiders listed their 25 most underrated and overrated players of the decade (BTW, is anyone even surprised that FO favorite Bobby "Mr. 3rd Down" Engram showed up high on the former list, or that longtime whipping boy DeShaun Foster topped the latter?), and it got me to thinking about assembling a similar list for the NBA.
To me, these are players who have the largest gulf between their perceived and actual values. Actual value is easy -- we just use the ever-trusty Win Shares -- but perceived value is a bit tougher. I used to pick up the old Basketball News annuals back in the day, and they would rank players by what they called "PAR (points + assists + rebounds) per game," I suppose thinking that it was some kind of complete player ranking (which is laughable now, but hey, this was the Dark Ages of the 90s). And to me, that's the conventional wisdom in a nutshell for all but the most hardcore fans -- I mean, what did you used to look at first before the APBRmetric revolution? Typically just PPG/RPG/APG, right? And maybe if you were really ahead of your time, FG%? So I'm going to use "PAR/G" as a barometer for how the "general public" views a player. Maybe things have gotten better in recent years, but I doubt it.
Now, all we have to do is subtract each player's ranking in WS from their ranking in PAR/G (minimum 70 GP or 2000 MP), and we've got ourselves a decent metric for determining overrated/underrated-ness (positive numbers being good, and negative ones being bad, naturally). Instead of aggregating over the entire decade, though, I'm going to list below the 40 most underrated and overrated individual seasons of the Oughts, so players can and will show up multiple times on each list. Let's get to it:
Most Underrated Seasons of the 2000s:
Rank | Year | Name | Tm | Pos | G | Min | OWS | DWS | WS | Rk | PPG | APG | RPG | PAR/G | Rk | Diff |
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1 | 2008 | Fabricio Oberto | SAS | F | 82 | 1646 | 3.1 | 2.8 | 5.9 | 76 | 4.8 | 1.2 | 5.2 | 11.2 | 188 | 112 |
2 | 2007 | Brent Barry | SAS | G | 75 | 1631 | 4.1 | 2.6 | 6.7 | 47 | 8.5 | 1.8 | 2.1 | 12.4 | 158 | 111 |
3 | 2007 | Dikembe Mutombo | HOU | C | 75 | 1289 | 2.1 | 3.0 | 5.1 | 78 | 3.1 | 0.2 | 6.5 | 9.7 | 182 | 104 |
4 | 2004 | Jeff Foster | IND | F | 82 | 1961 | 4.3 | 3.7 | 8.0 | 37 | 6.1 | 0.8 | 7.4 | 14.3 | 135 | 98 |
5 | 2007 | Chuck Hayes | HOU | F | 78 | 1714 | 2.8 | 3.5 | 6.3 | 57 | 5.6 | 0.6 | 6.7 | 12.9 | 154 | 97 |
6 | 2003 | Shawn Bradley | DAL | C | 81 | 1731 | 3.9 | 3.6 | 7.5 | 41 | 6.7 | 0.7 | 5.9 | 13.2 | 138 | 97 |
7 | 2009 | Matt Bonner | SAS | F | 81 | 1928 | 3.7 | 2.9 | 6.5 | 51 | 8.2 | 1.0 | 4.8 | 14.0 | 145 | 94 |
8 | 2008 | James Posey | BOS | F | 74 | 1821 | 2.2 | 3.9 | 6.1 | 68 | 7.4 | 1.5 | 4.4 | 13.3 | 162 | 94 |
9 | 2000 | Scot Pollard | SAC | C | 76 | 1336 | 3.1 | 2.3 | 5.4 | 76 | 5.4 | 0.6 | 5.3 | 11.3 | 170 | 94 |
10 | 2007 | Shane Battier | HOU | F | 82 | 2988 | 4.3 | 4.6 | 8.9 | 23 | 10.1 | 2.1 | 4.1 | 16.4 | 116 | 93 |
11 | 2005 | Fred Hoiberg | MIN | G | 76 | 1272 | 3.8 | 1.3 | 5.1 | 82 | 5.8 | 1.1 | 2.4 | 9.3 | 175 | 93 |
12 | 2004 | Reggie Miller | IND | G | 80 | 2254 | 5.9 | 2.8 | 8.6 | 30 | 10.0 | 3.1 | 2.4 | 15.5 | 123 | 93 |
13 | 2000 | Robert Horry | LAL | F | 76 | 1685 | 2.1 | 3.6 | 5.7 | 68 | 5.7 | 1.6 | 4.8 | 12.0 | 160 | 92 |
14 | 2002 | Scot Pollard | SAC | C | 80 | 1881 | 3.5 | 3.7 | 7.2 | 44 | 6.4 | 0.7 | 7.1 | 14.1 | 135 | 91 |
15 | 2008 | Chuck Hayes | HOU | F | 79 | 1575 | 0.7 | 3.6 | 4.4 | 110 | 3.0 | 1.2 | 5.4 | 9.6 | 199 | 89 |
16 | 2004 | Fred Hoiberg | MIN | G | 79 | 1804 | 3.5 | 2.6 | 6.1 | 67 | 6.7 | 1.4 | 3.4 | 11.5 | 156 | 89 |
17 | 2009 | Erick Dampier | DAL | C | 80 | 1836 | 3.9 | 2.3 | 6.1 | 59 | 5.7 | 1.0 | 7.1 | 13.7 | 147 | 88 |
18 | 2002 | Jon Barry | DET | G | 82 | 1985 | 5.0 | 2.4 | 7.4 | 41 | 9.0 | 3.3 | 2.9 | 15.2 | 129 | 88 |
19 | 2009 | Anderson Varejao | CLE | F | 81 | 2306 | 3.2 | 4.6 | 7.7 | 35 | 8.6 | 1.0 | 7.2 | 16.7 | 122 | 87 |
20 | 2009 | Joel Przybilla | POR | C | 82 | 1952 | 3.1 | 3.2 | 6.3 | 54 | 5.5 | 0.3 | 8.7 | 14.5 | 140 | 86 |
21 | 2008 | Shane Battier | HOU | F | 80 | 2907 | 3.5 | 4.5 | 8.0 | 37 | 9.3 | 1.9 | 5.1 | 16.3 | 123 | 86 |
22 | 2007 | Anderson Varejao | CLE | F | 81 | 1932 | 2.6 | 3.9 | 6.5 | 50 | 6.8 | 0.9 | 6.7 | 14.4 | 135 | 85 |
23 | 2005 | Brent Barry | SAS | G | 81 | 1742 | 3.4 | 2.6 | 6.0 | 63 | 7.4 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 12.0 | 148 | 85 |
24 | 2007 | Eduardo Najera | DEN | F | 75 | 1658 | 3.1 | 1.9 | 5.1 | 79 | 6.6 | 0.9 | 4.1 | 11.6 | 162 | 83 |
25 | 2009 | Eddie House | BOS | G | 81 | 1479 | 2.4 | 2.4 | 4.8 | 90 | 8.5 | 1.1 | 1.9 | 11.6 | 172 | 82 |
26 | 2008 | Kendrick Perkins | BOS | F | 78 | 1912 | 1.8 | 4.3 | 6.1 | 69 | 6.9 | 1.1 | 6.1 | 14.1 | 151 | 82 |
27 | 2008 | Jason Maxiell | DET | F | 82 | 1768 | 3.2 | 2.7 | 5.9 | 72 | 7.9 | 0.6 | 5.3 | 13.8 | 154 | 82 |
28 | 2009 | Chris Andersen | DEN | F | 71 | 1460 | 2.6 | 2.9 | 5.5 | 72 | 6.4 | 0.4 | 6.2 | 13.0 | 153 | 81 |
29 | 2000 | Ben Wallace | ORL | C | 81 | 1951 | 1.8 | 4.0 | 5.9 | 64 | 4.8 | 0.8 | 8.0 | 13.7 | 145 | 81 |
30 | 2009 | Trevor Ariza | LAL | F | 82 | 1998 | 2.6 | 3.7 | 6.3 | 55 | 8.9 | 1.8 | 4.3 | 15.0 | 135 | 80 |
31 | 2003 | Jon Barry | DET | G | 80 | 1473 | 3.3 | 2.1 | 5.3 | 71 | 6.9 | 2.6 | 2.3 | 11.8 | 151 | 80 |
32 | 2002 | Robert Horry | LAL | F | 81 | 2140 | 3.3 | 3.6 | 7.0 | 47 | 6.8 | 2.9 | 5.9 | 15.6 | 127 | 80 |
33 | 2008 | Ronnie Brewer | UTA | G | 76 | 2088 | 5.4 | 2.4 | 7.8 | 40 | 12.0 | 1.8 | 2.9 | 16.7 | 119 | 79 |
34 | 2000 | Bo Outlaw | ORL | F | 82 | 2336 | 2.9 | 4.3 | 7.1 | 43 | 6.0 | 3.0 | 6.6 | 15.6 | 122 | 79 |
35 | 2008 | Bruce Bowen | SAS | F | 81 | 2448 | 0.9 | 3.3 | 4.2 | 116 | 6.0 | 1.1 | 2.9 | 10.0 | 194 | 78 |
36 | 2006 | Bruce Bowen | SAS | F | 82 | 2755 | 1.6 | 4.4 | 6.1 | 61 | 7.5 | 1.5 | 3.9 | 13.0 | 139 | 78 |
37 | 2009 | Derek Fisher | LAL | G | 82 | 2441 | 3.7 | 2.8 | 6.5 | 53 | 9.9 | 3.2 | 2.3 | 15.4 | 130 | 77 |
38 | 2008 | Eduardo Najera | DEN | F | 78 | 1664 | 2.3 | 2.2 | 4.4 | 107 | 5.9 | 1.2 | 4.3 | 11.5 | 184 | 77 |
39 | 2004 | Brian Cardinal | GSW | F | 76 | 1634 | 5.5 | 1.7 | 7.2 | 49 | 9.6 | 1.4 | 4.2 | 15.2 | 126 | 77 |
40 | 2009 | Joakim Noah | CHI | C | 80 | 1938 | 3.8 | 2.7 | 6.5 | 52 | 6.7 | 1.3 | 7.6 | 15.6 | 128 | 76 |
It's no surprise that many of the players on this list are defense-first guys, since they had to see significant burn to make the list, and with such unimpressive conventional numbers they had to be doing something out there to warrant the playing time (defense being the great intangible contribution that the conventional boxscore all but ignores). Almost more impressive to me, though, are the guys who post solid OWS numbers and still appear on this list -- Reggie Miller '04, Jon Barry '02, Ronnie Brewer '08, & Brian Cardinal '04, for instance. All of those guys averaged an insane number of points created per shot attempt, a fact which didn't really go noticed by many in the media. Then again, none of those four ever played at that level again (check that, the jury's actually still out on Brewer, but he declined sharply last season), confirming that players who shoot so ridiculously well invariably regress to the mean in subsequent seasons.
Most Overrated Seasons of the 2000s:
Rank | Year | Name | Tm | Pos | G | Min | OWS | DWS | WS | Rk | PPG | APG | RPG | PAR/G | Rk | Diff |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 2005 | Antoine Walker | TOT | F | 77 | 2955 | -1.4 | 2.3 | 0.9 | 190 | 19.1 | 3.4 | 9.0 | 31.6 | 21 | -169 |
2 | 2009 | Baron Davis | LAC | G | 65 | 2248 | -0.9 | 1.5 | 0.6 | 201 | 14.9 | 7.7 | 3.7 | 26.3 | 41 | -160 |
3 | 2000 | Maurice Taylor | LAC | F | 62 | 2227 | -0.8 | 0.5 | -0.3 | 200 | 17.1 | 1.6 | 6.5 | 25.2 | 47 | -153 |
4 | 2000 | Isaiah Rider | ATL | G | 60 | 2084 | 1.2 | 0.4 | 1.6 | 185 | 19.3 | 3.7 | 4.3 | 27.3 | 34 | -151 |
5 | 2009 | Stephen Jackson | GSW | F | 59 | 2339 | 1.6 | 0.7 | 2.4 | 161 | 20.7 | 6.5 | 5.1 | 32.3 | 15 | -146 |
6 | 2005 | Al Harrington | ATL | F | 66 | 2550 | 0.6 | 1.0 | 1.6 | 178 | 17.5 | 3.2 | 7.0 | 27.7 | 33 | -145 |
7 | 2004 | Allen Iverson | PHI | G | 48 | 2040 | 0.5 | 2.2 | 2.7 | 147 | 26.4 | 6.8 | 3.7 | 36.8 | 4 | -143 |
8 | 2002 | Jason Williams | MEM | G | 65 | 2236 | -0.6 | 1.5 | 0.9 | 180 | 14.8 | 8.0 | 3.0 | 25.7 | 44 | -136 |
9 | 2006 | Zach Randolph | POR | F | 74 | 2545 | 0.4 | 0.8 | 1.2 | 168 | 18.0 | 1.9 | 8.0 | 28.0 | 34 | -134 |
10 | 2009 | Russell Westbrook | OKC | G | 82 | 2668 | -0.1 | 2.1 | 2.0 | 177 | 15.3 | 5.3 | 4.9 | 25.5 | 47 | -130 |
11 | 2008 | Zach Randolph | NYK | F | 69 | 2244 | 0.9 | 2.0 | 2.9 | 162 | 17.6 | 2.0 | 10.3 | 30.0 | 32 | -130 |
12 | 2003 | Antoine Walker | BOS | F | 78 | 3235 | -1.6 | 4.2 | 2.6 | 148 | 20.1 | 4.8 | 7.2 | 32.1 | 19 | -129 |
13 | 2009 | Al Thornton | LAC | F | 71 | 2654 | 0.2 | 1.0 | 1.2 | 192 | 16.8 | 1.5 | 5.2 | 23.5 | 67 | -125 |
14 | 2001 | Ron Mercer | CHI | F | 61 | 2535 | 1.4 | 0.3 | 1.8 | 166 | 19.7 | 3.3 | 3.9 | 26.9 | 41 | -125 |
15 | 2004 | Gilbert Arenas | WAS | G | 55 | 2066 | 1.1 | 1.6 | 2.7 | 149 | 19.6 | 5.0 | 4.6 | 29.2 | 25 | -124 |
16 | 2008 | Kevin Durant | SEA | G | 80 | 2768 | 0.4 | 2.0 | 2.4 | 175 | 20.3 | 2.4 | 4.4 | 27.1 | 53 | -122 |
17 | 2000 | Juwan Howard | WAS | F | 82 | 2909 | 0.5 | 1.3 | 1.9 | 179 | 14.9 | 3.0 | 5.7 | 23.6 | 57 | -122 |
18 | 2000 | Jason Williams | SAC | G | 81 | 2760 | -1.2 | 2.7 | 1.5 | 186 | 12.3 | 7.3 | 2.8 | 22.4 | 64 | -122 |
19 | 2004 | Jalen Rose | TOT | G | 66 | 2497 | -0.6 | 2.1 | 1.5 | 181 | 15.5 | 5.0 | 4.0 | 24.5 | 61 | -120 |
20 | 2002 | Michael Jordan | WAS | G | 60 | 2092 | 1.2 | 2.0 | 3.2 | 134 | 22.9 | 5.2 | 5.7 | 33.7 | 15 | -119 |
21 | 2000 | Ron Mercer | TOT | F | 68 | 2377 | 0.2 | 1.6 | 1.8 | 180 | 16.9 | 2.3 | 3.7 | 22.9 | 62 | -118 |
22 | 2005 | Chris Webber | TOT | F | 67 | 2370 | 0.2 | 3.3 | 3.5 | 127 | 19.5 | 4.7 | 9.1 | 33.4 | 14 | -113 |
23 | 2000 | Lamar Odom | LAC | F | 76 | 2767 | 1.7 | 1.5 | 3.2 | 142 | 16.6 | 4.2 | 7.8 | 28.6 | 29 | -113 |
24 | 2003 | Glenn Robinson | ATL | F | 69 | 2591 | 1.0 | 1.9 | 2.9 | 138 | 20.8 | 3.0 | 6.6 | 30.4 | 26 | -112 |
25 | 2000 | Larry Hughes | TOT | G | 82 | 2324 | -0.4 | 2.2 | 1.7 | 183 | 15.0 | 2.5 | 4.3 | 21.7 | 71 | -112 |
26 | 2008 | Chris Kaman | LAC | C | 56 | 2083 | 0.4 | 3.2 | 3.6 | 139 | 15.7 | 1.9 | 12.7 | 30.3 | 28 | -111 |
27 | 2009 | Allen Iverson | TOT | G | 57 | 2093 | 0.9 | 1.8 | 2.7 | 157 | 17.5 | 5.0 | 3.0 | 25.5 | 48 | -109 |
28 | 2003 | Ricky Davis | CLE | G | 79 | 3130 | 1.6 | 1.6 | 3.1 | 133 | 20.6 | 5.5 | 4.9 | 31.0 | 24 | -109 |
29 | 2009 | Spencer Hawes | SAC | C | 77 | 2259 | -0.4 | 1.2 | 0.8 | 199 | 11.4 | 1.9 | 7.1 | 20.4 | 93 | -106 |
30 | 2008 | Ricky Davis | MIA | G | 82 | 2963 | 0.3 | 1.6 | 1.8 | 183 | 13.8 | 3.4 | 4.3 | 21.5 | 77 | -106 |
31 | 2002 | Latrell Sprewell | NYK | G | 81 | 3326 | 1.1 | 1.7 | 2.8 | 144 | 19.4 | 3.9 | 3.7 | 27.0 | 38 | -106 |
32 | 2004 | Quentin Richardson | LAC | G | 65 | 2338 | 2.1 | 0.4 | 2.5 | 156 | 17.2 | 2.1 | 6.4 | 25.8 | 51 | -105 |
33 | 2009 | Rudy Gay | MEM | F | 79 | 2945 | 0.7 | 2.5 | 3.3 | 146 | 18.9 | 1.7 | 5.5 | 26.1 | 42 | -104 |
34 | 2007 | Raymond Felton | CHA | G | 78 | 2832 | 0.2 | 2.1 | 2.3 | 165 | 14.0 | 7.0 | 3.4 | 24.4 | 62 | -103 |
35 | 2001 | Michael Dickerson | VAN | G | 70 | 2618 | 1.2 | 0.7 | 1.8 | 165 | 16.3 | 3.3 | 3.3 | 22.9 | 62 | -103 |
36 | 2000 | Jim Jackson | ATL | G | 79 | 2767 | 2.1 | 0.7 | 2.8 | 154 | 16.7 | 2.9 | 5.0 | 24.6 | 51 | -103 |
37 | 2009 | Jamal Crawford | TOT | G | 65 | 2479 | 3.6 | 0.0 | 3.5 | 136 | 19.7 | 4.4 | 3.0 | 27.1 | 36 | -100 |
38 | 2007 | Desmond Mason | NOK | F | 75 | 2575 | -1.1 | 1.7 | 0.6 | 191 | 13.7 | 1.5 | 4.6 | 19.8 | 91 | -100 |
39 | 2007 | Mo Williams | MIL | G | 68 | 2471 | 2.3 | 0.9 | 3.2 | 136 | 17.3 | 6.1 | 4.8 | 28.2 | 37 | -99 |
40 | 2003 | Darius Miles | CLE | F | 67 | 2007 | -2.8 | 1.4 | -1.4 | 197 | 9.2 | 2.6 | 5.4 | 17.3 | 98 | -99 |
Hey, there's our old pal Antoine Walker, holding down the #1 spot for the season in which he managed to get tons of credit simply for being better than Mark Blount... If you could sum up both lists with three words, they would be "defense" and "shooting percentage". The underrated guys excel in one if not both of those categories (areas which happen to get slept on by casual fans and sportswriters alike), while the overrateds stuff the "money stats" of PAR but play no D and/or post horrible shooting %s. Note that even the Greatest of All Time is not spared from the wrath of the overrated list, for his inefficient offensive and defensive performance during Year 1 of The Second Comeback (you'll be gratified to know, though, that he was much better the following season, his final as a pro).
The moral of the story is that PPG/APG/RPG are not everything. And if you're reading this blog, odds are you knew that a long time ago. Still, it's fun to look back at the big names of the decade that was and see who was underappreciated, and who was getting more credit than they deserved.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:54 am
The other thing this list seems to show is that being a high minute / low statistic player on the Spurs in the 2000s is going to get you a nice WS to PAR ratio. I'd be interested to see what this showed for the '90s. I have a feeling it might be riddled with non-scoring Bulls players.
August 6th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I recall Cardinal getting a lot of props for that one season with Golden State, which is why he got overpaid as a free agent right afterwards. He's making almost $7 million for 09-10 because of that one season, so I can't really agree with it being underrated.
Interesting to see 2009 Dampier on that first list. Usually I only hear his name when it precedes the phrase "a waste of space."
August 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I start to doubt the whole vailidity when Matt Bonner's Win Score rating was the 51st best in the league. I just find it hard to imagine him being the fifty first player best at producing a win. It must have alot to do with the San Antonio system I'm guessing.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:35 am
I know this is strictly a numbers thing, but I don't recall anybody, any Mike Dumbleavy, saying Baron Davis had an excellent 1st season with the LA Clippers.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Good analysis.
Doesn't surprise me that a lot of those overrated players are ones who are also sometimes considered selfish and 'ballhogs' (Isiah Rider, Ricky Davis, A. Walker, Iverson).
August 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Can someone explain this chart? What ows/dws stand for? I really want to understand this but I'm ilunfamiliar with the acronyms.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Cstein,
They stand for Offensive and Defensive Win shares. They're advanced metrics used to determined how valuable an individual player is to his teams outcome...The overall team ability does tend to dictate an individuals success in these statistical categories so in some ways they can be misleading, but they do give a good indicator how important each player is within their own team concept...
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
This is flawed.
Notice how the underrated players tend to play on good teams, while the overrated players play on bad teams.
Wins Shares by and large depends on how many games your team wins. PER should be used instead, thus you wont have Michael Jordan on this list (who posted a good PER of 20.8 in 2002).
August 11th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Except Mike, PER is generated from Box score stats ... WS is a function of team success so we would expect players from good teams who don't generate lots of stats to look good by this measure.
I do not think for a second Neil was trying to say Bowen and Barry were the reason for San Antonio winning their titles, there are other far more recognised Fundamental players to attribute that to ... but More the first list indicates people who helped their team win, ie be better disproportionately more than their production stats indicated.
I would note, for example, that Biedrins is not on the "bad" list, nor Chris Bosh or Kevin Martin - despite playing on bad teams. Personally, I think it is a bit mean to have rookies on the Overrated list ...