BBR Mailbag: 10 Years With the Same Franchise
Posted by Neil Paine on October 5, 2009
In the comments section of our Andre Iguodala post last week, Joe Schaller had this request for us:
I would like to see a blog on players who played their entire career of at least 10 seasons with just one team, a truly great achievement when you really think about it and very rare. I think Reggie Miller was the last to do it.
No problem, Joe. Here's every player in NBA history to spend at least 10 seasons with the same franchise:
Player | From | To | Years | Tm |
---|---|---|---|---|
John Stockton* | 1985 | 2003 | 19 | UTA |
Reggie Miller | 1988 | 2005 | 18 | IND |
John Havlicek* | 1963 | 1978 | 16 | BOS |
Hal Greer* | 1959 | 1973 | 15 | PHI |
Dolph Schayes* | 1950 | 1964 | 15 | PHI |
Joe Dumars* | 1986 | 1999 | 14 | DET |
David Robinson* | 1990 | 2003 | 14 | SAS |
Jerry West* | 1961 | 1974 | 14 | LAL |
Elgin Baylor* | 1959 | 1972 | 14 | LAL |
Magic Johnson* | 1980 | 1996 | 13 | LAL |
Calvin Murphy* | 1971 | 1983 | 13 | HOU |
Alvan Adams | 1976 | 1988 | 13 | PHO |
Wes Unseld* | 1969 | 1981 | 13 | WAS |
Isiah Thomas* | 1982 | 1994 | 13 | DET |
Kevin McHale* | 1981 | 1993 | 13 | BOS |
Fred Brown | 1972 | 1984 | 13 | SEA |
Bill Russell* | 1957 | 1969 | 13 | BOS |
Kobe Bryant | 1997 | 2009 | 13 | LAL |
Tom Sanders | 1961 | 1973 | 13 | BOS |
Larry Bird* | 1980 | 1992 | 13 | BOS |
James Worthy* | 1983 | 1994 | 12 | LAL |
Tim Duncan | 1998 | 2009 | 12 | SAS |
Michael Cooper | 1979 | 1990 | 12 | LAL |
Sam Jones* | 1958 | 1969 | 12 | BOS |
Rik Smits | 1989 | 2000 | 12 | IND |
Nate McMillan | 1987 | 1998 | 12 | SEA |
Paul Arizin* | 1951 | 1962 | 12 | GSW |
Zydrunas Ilgauskas | 1998 | 2009 | 12 | CLE |
Mark Eaton | 1983 | 1993 | 11 | UTA |
Dirk Nowitzki | 1999 | 2009 | 11 | DAL |
Julius Erving* | 1977 | 1987 | 11 | PHI |
Jack Twyman* | 1956 | 1966 | 11 | SAC |
Paul Pierce | 1999 | 2009 | 11 | BOS |
Bob Pettit* | 1955 | 1965 | 11 | ATL |
Rudy Tomjanovich | 1971 | 1981 | 11 | HOU |
Darrell Griffith | 1981 | 1991 | 11 | UTA |
Al Attles | 1961 | 1971 | 11 | GSW |
Billy Cunningham* | 1966 | 1976 | 11 | PHI |
Cliff Hagan* | 1957 | 1966 | 10 | ATL |
Bill Bradley* | 1968 | 1977 | 10 | NYK |
Allen Leavell | 1980 | 1989 | 10 | HOU |
Vern Mikkelsen* | 1950 | 1959 | 10 | LAL |
Al Bianchi | 1957 | 1966 | 10 | PHI |
Jeff Foster | 2000 | 2009 | 10 | IND |
Willis Reed* | 1965 | 1974 | 10 | NYK |
Tom Boerwinkle | 1969 | 1978 | 10 | CHI |
Frank Ramsey* | 1955 | 1964 | 10 | BOS |
Indeed, Reggie Miller was the last person to do it, unless you count Kobe Bryant, who's obviously still active but has logged 13 seasons (going on 14) with the Los Angeles Lakers. Now, in the interest of seeing current players who may approach this mark, here are the players who have played the most game for a single NBA franchise (with 2009-10 actives bolded):
Player | From | To | Years | Tm | G |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
John Stockton* | 1985 | 2003 | 19 | UTA | 1504 |
Reggie Miller | 1988 | 2005 | 18 | IND | 1389 |
John Havlicek* | 1963 | 1978 | 16 | BOS | 1270 |
Hal Greer* | 1959 | 1973 | 15 | PHI | 1122 |
Joe Dumars* | 1986 | 1999 | 14 | DET | 1018 |
Calvin Murphy* | 1971 | 1983 | 13 | HOU | 1002 |
Dolph Schayes* | 1950 | 1964 | 15 | PHI | 996 |
Alvan Adams | 1976 | 1988 | 13 | PHO | 988 |
David Robinson* | 1990 | 2003 | 14 | SAS | 987 |
Wes Unseld* | 1969 | 1981 | 13 | WAS | 984 |
Isiah Thomas* | 1982 | 1994 | 13 | DET | 979 |
Kevin McHale* | 1981 | 1993 | 13 | BOS | 971 |
Fred Brown | 1972 | 1984 | 13 | SEA | 963 |
Bill Russell* | 1957 | 1969 | 13 | BOS | 963 |
Kobe Bryant | 1997 | 2009 | 13 | LAL | 948 |
Jerry West* | 1961 | 1974 | 14 | LAL | 932 |
James Worthy* | 1983 | 1994 | 12 | LAL | 926 |
Tom Sanders | 1961 | 1973 | 13 | BOS | 916 |
Magic Johnson* | 1980 | 1996 | 13 | LAL | 906 |
Tim Duncan | 1998 | 2009 | 12 | SAS | 899 |
Larry Bird* | 1980 | 1992 | 13 | BOS | 897 |
Mark Eaton | 1983 | 1993 | 11 | UTA | 875 |
Michael Cooper | 1979 | 1990 | 12 | LAL | 873 |
Sam Jones* | 1958 | 1969 | 12 | BOS | 871 |
Rik Smits | 1989 | 2000 | 12 | IND | 867 |
Elgin Baylor* | 1959 | 1972 | 14 | LAL | 846 |
Dirk Nowitzki | 1999 | 2009 | 11 | DAL | 839 |
Julius Erving* | 1977 | 1987 | 11 | PHI | 836 |
Jack Twyman* | 1956 | 1966 | 11 | SAC | 823 |
Paul Pierce | 1999 | 2009 | 11 | BOS | 813 |
Nate McMillan | 1987 | 1998 | 12 | SEA | 796 |
Bob Pettit* | 1955 | 1965 | 11 | ATL | 792 |
Rudy Tomjanovich | 1971 | 1981 | 11 | HOU | 768 |
Darrell Griffith | 1981 | 1991 | 11 | UTA | 765 |
Cliff Hagan* | 1957 | 1966 | 10 | ATL | 745 |
Bill Bradley* | 1968 | 1977 | 10 | NYK | 742 |
Dan Issel* | 1977 | 1985 | 9 | DEN | 718 |
Paul Arizin* | 1951 | 1962 | 12 | GSW | 713 |
Al Attles | 1961 | 1971 | 11 | GSW | 711 |
Zydrunas Ilgauskas | 1998 | 2009 | 12 | CLE | 707 |
Allen Leavell | 1980 | 1989 | 10 | HOU | 700 |
Vern Mikkelsen* | 1950 | 1959 | 10 | LAL | 699 |
Al Bianchi | 1957 | 1966 | 10 | PHI | 687 |
Jeff Foster | 2000 | 2009 | 10 | IND | 681 |
K.C. Jones* | 1959 | 1967 | 9 | BOS | 676 |
Billy Cunningham* | 1966 | 1976 | 11 | PHI | 654 |
Tom Heinsohn* | 1957 | 1965 | 9 | BOS | 654 |
Willis Reed* | 1965 | 1974 | 10 | NYK | 650 |
Tom Boerwinkle | 1969 | 1978 | 10 | CHI | 635 |
Alvin Scott | 1978 | 1985 | 8 | PHO | 627 |
Frank Ramsey* | 1955 | 1964 | 10 | BOS | 623 |
Tony Parker | 2002 | 2009 | 8 | SAS | 612 |
Larry Steele | 1972 | 1980 | 9 | POR | 610 |
Bobby Wanzer* | 1949 | 1957 | 9 | SAC | 568 |
Andrei Kirilenko | 2002 | 2009 | 8 | UTA | 559 |
Michael Redd | 2001 | 2009 | 9 | MIL | 550 |
Brad Daugherty | 1987 | 1994 | 8 | CLE | 548 |
Tayshaun Prince | 2003 | 2009 | 7 | DET | 534 |
Brendan Haywood | 2002 | 2009 | 8 | WAS | 530 |
Joe Ellis | 1967 | 1974 | 8 | GSW | 524 |
Luke Jackson | 1965 | 1972 | 8 | PHI | 522 |
Neil Johnston* | 1952 | 1959 | 8 | GSW | 516 |
Jim Krebs | 1958 | 1964 | 7 | LAL | 515 |
Jim Loscutoff | 1956 | 1964 | 9 | BOS | 511 |
Samuel Dalembert | 2002 | 2009 | 8 | PHI | 500 |
Anyone else surprised by some of the active players on that list, like Foster, Haywood, and Dalembert? I never would have guessed those guys, although in retrospect they're pretty obvious.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
BTW, Kevin Garnett played 12 years & 927 G with Minnesota before going to Boston.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Does this only include players who played their entire careers with the same team? I don't see any reference to Karl Malone's 18 seasons with Utah or the Iceman's 13 with San Antonio (if you count his ABA time). And I don't think we should discount Dave Cowens's 10 seasons with the Celts for that one season he came out of retirement with Milwaukee. Or Bob Cousy's 13 seasons in green for doing the same with Cincinnati for seven games seven seasons later. :)
October 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
This list makes me feel old. Especially Haywood & Prince! For some reason I thought Foster had played somewhere else before joining Indi. Maybe I'm thinking of Pollard.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
ABA seasons aren't included (that's how Dr. J is considered having played his entire career for the 76ers), and sorry, end-of-career-attempted-ring-grabs and/or un-retirements do exclude you from the list. Because those kinds of things will always be just wrong.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
What if you have an unquenchable lust for destroying Kwame Brown's soul in practice, and you find owning a team you don't play for boring? I don't think THAT should exclude you from the list.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Yeah, well, if he wanted to crush a teenage teammate's spirit and keep a spot on this list, he should have come back with the Bulls and mercilessly gone after Eddy Curry every day.
October 5th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Oh man, that would have been like the way he treated Stacy King cubed. Can a grown man go to jail for badgering a fat kid into a catatonic coma?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Magic may have quit, finally, 17 years after he started, but he didn't play 17 seasons.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Good point, I fixed it.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Thanks for the great lists Neil. It seems it was once more common to spend an entire career with just one team and names that should be on the list if not for a last failing grasp at glory include Hakeem Olajuwon (Toronto), Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and Jordan.
Who am I leaving out?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Yes Kobe has played all his games with the Lakers, but he hasn't been with the Laker organization his entire career, as he was a draft day trade.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Hey Neil, you should make a Sporcle quiz out of this, if I don't do it first.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
why wouldn't robert parish be in this stat?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Robert Parish started his career with Golden State.
Clyde Drexler was one of the few who was rewarded with a championship, with Houston after eleven years in Portland.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
It seems as though Tim Duncan is missing?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
NVM, I am an idiot
October 6th, 2009 at 9:06 am
To think . . . Karl Malone blew being on this list for a shot at Kobe's wife *shakes head*
October 6th, 2009 at 9:09 am
The Chief was also on the Bulls 96-97 roster and earned another ring.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Well, I wouldn't exactly say "earned"...
October 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Robert Parish was 106 years old when he played for Chicago, and he still changed ends faster than Longley, that big Australian glacier.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
kobe will jump into the top 5 after this season. and before his career is over top 4 and maybe even top 3.
October 7th, 2009 at 2:26 am
Surprising number of Celtics and Lakers on these lists... well maybe not surprising, since they entered ebbs and flows of championship waves. It would take quite the fluke for a championship contributor to jump ship for a shot at another ring. In that sense, I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe Bryant eclipses 1300 games as a Laker... What would he have left to prove in, say, making a homecoming and playing for the 76ers?
October 7th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I agree with Derek. Kobe's got 4 rings, an MVP, stats, wins, clutchocity. One imagines he's in Bird/Johnson territory right now, and has the potential to go higher.
October 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am
He'll have to work to get to Horry levels, though...
October 7th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Does this list take into consideration the fact that Kobe wasn't drafted by LAL? Technically he was a Hornet for about the first 5 minutes of his NBA carreer, or are you only considering "played games" with another team?
October 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
You had to play for a team from beginning to end. It would be more difficult (and, frankly, silly) to go through and find instances of draft-day trades, etc. that technically made players like Kobe members of a different team than the one they're associated with. In my book, though, you get disqualified from this list only when you suit up in another team's jersey during an official game.
October 8th, 2009 at 5:55 am
What if you appear in an official game, in someone else's jersey?