How Would You Fill the “NBA Hall of Relevance”?
Posted by Neil Paine on February 24, 2011
I've been thinking about this concept for a while, but I want to throw it out there for the readers and see what they think...
Everyone knows we already have a Basketball Hall of Fame. But from an NBA perspective, a lot of people think it's broken -- as the argument goes, too many non-NBA people get inducted while great NBA players are left out in the cold. So there's a growing push to create an NBA-only Hall of Fame. How do you stock such a Hall, though? It seems like the other major sports have a pretty clear focus in their induction processes: baseball's hall is largely about longevity and statistical milestones, while football's hall is heavily focused on guys who won championships and/or changed the game.
So what should the NBA's angle be? I want to propose that this hypothetical Hall be about "relevance". As in, who were the relevant players in a given season or span of seasons? Who were the essential names? When you tell the Story Of The NBA, which players would it be inexcusable not to mention? If the Hall of Fame is about celebrating the history of the league, then including the guys that fundamentally shaped the narrative is a pretty good mandate. And if we can tell the NBA's story without mentioning a certain player, it's hard to argue that he belongs in the Hall.
The good news is that you can generate the majority of this list by setting up a basic checklist of requirements. But I want to know what you think those requirements are.
Off the top of my head, here's a basic list of requirements that capture the "relevant" players each season:
- Top 3 in each season's MVP voting
- Every Sporting News MVP
- Every season's 1st-team All-NBAers
- Every Finals MVP
- Top 3 players on each NBA champion
- Best player on Finals runner-up
- Best player on team with NBA's best record
- PER leader for seasons 2000-present
- Win Shares leader for seasons 2004-present
This is the list of players generated by those criteria:
Player | How Qualified |
---|---|
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Alvan Adams | best on runner up |
Danny Ainge | top3 on champ |
Ray Allen | top3 on champ |
Tiny Archibald | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Sporting News MVP,top3 on champ |
Paul Arizin | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
Charles Barkley | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,best on runner up |
Rick Barry | 1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Elgin Baylor | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Ralph Beard | 1stAll-NBA |
Chauncey Billups | Finals MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Dave Bing | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Larry Bird | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Kobe Bryant | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Wilt Chamberlain | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Maurice Cheeks | top3 on champ |
Nathaniel Clifton | best on runner up |
Bob Cousy | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Dave Cowens | top3mvp,MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Billy Cunningham | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Bob Dandridge | top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Bob Davies | 1stAll-NBA |
Dave DeBusschere | top3 on champ |
Clyde Drexler | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Joe Dumars | Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Tim Duncan | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Kevin Durant | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Julius Erving | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Patrick Ewing | 1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Derek Fisher | top3 on champ |
Larry Foust | 1stAll-NBA,best on best rec |
Walt Frazier | 1stAll-NBA,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Harry Gallatin | 1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Kevin Garnett | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,PER ldr,WS ldr,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Pau Gasol | top3 on champ |
George Gervin | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Manu Ginobili | top3 on champ |
Tom Gola | top3 on champ |
Gail Goodrich | 1stAll-NBA |
Horace Grant | top3 on champ |
Hal Greer | top3 on champ |
Bob Gross | top3 on champ |
Alex Groza | 1stAll-NBA |
Cliff Hagan | top3 on champ |
Happy Hairston | top3 on champ |
Richard Hamilton | top3 on champ |
Anfernee Hardaway | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Tim Hardaway | 1stAll-NBA |
Ron Harper | top3 on champ |
John Havlicek | 1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Connie Hawkins | 1stAll-NBA |
Elvin Hayes | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Spencer Haywood | 1stAll-NBA |
Tom Heinsohn | top3 on champ |
Grant Hill | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Robert Horry | top3 on champ |
Dwight Howard | 1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Bailey Howell | top3 on champ |
Allen Iverson | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on runner up |
Stephen Jackson | top3 on champ |
LeBron James | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,PER ldr,WS ldr,best on best rec,best on runner up |
Arnie Johnson | top3 on champ |
Avery Johnson | top3 on champ |
Dennis Johnson | 1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Marques Johnson | 1stAll-NBA |
Magic Johnson | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Neil Johnston | 1stAll-NBA,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Sam Jones | top3 on champ |
Michael Jordan | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Shawn Kemp | best on best rec,best on runner up |
Red Kerr | top3 on champ |
Jason Kidd | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Bernard King | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Sporting News MVP |
Toni Kukoc | top3 on champ |
Bill Laimbeer | top3 on champ |
Bob Lanier | top3mvp |
Clyde Lovellette | top3 on champ |
Jerry Lucas | 1stAll-NBA |
Maurice Lucas | top3 on champ |
Ed Macauley | 1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
Karl Malone | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on runner up |
Moses Malone | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Pete Maravich | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Cedric Maxwell | Finals MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Bob McAdoo | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP |
George McGinnis | 1stAll-NBA |
Tracy McGrady | 1stAll-NBA,PER ldr |
Kevin McHale | 1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
George Mikan | 1stAll-NBA,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Vern Mikkelsen | top3 on champ |
Reggie Miller | best on runner up |
Sidney Moncrief | 1stAll-NBA |
Earl Monroe | 1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
Alonzo Mourning | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
Chris Mullin | 1stAll-NBA |
Steve Nash | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP |
Norm Nixon | top3 on champ |
Dirk Nowitzki | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,PER ldr,WS ldr,best on best rec,best on runner up |
Lamar Odom | top3 on champ |
Hakeem Olajuwon | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Jermaine O'Neal | top3mvp,best on best rec |
Shaquille O'Neal | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,PER ldr,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Robert Parish | top3 on champ |
Tony Parker | Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Chris Paul | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,WS ldr |
Gary Payton | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Bob Pettit | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Paul Pierce | Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Scottie Pippen | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
Jim Pollard | 1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
Terry Porter | best on best rec,best on runner up |
Mark Price | 1stAll-NBA |
Frank Ramsey | top3 on champ |
Clifford Ray | top3 on champ |
Willis Reed | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,top3 on champ |
Glen Rice | top3 on champ |
Arnie Risen | best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Oscar Robertson | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,top3 on champ |
David Robinson | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Truck Robinson | 1stAll-NBA |
Red Rocha | top3 on champ |
Dennis Rodman | top3 on champ |
Rajon Rondo | best on runner up |
Bill Russell | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Tom Sanders | top3 on champ |
Dolph Schayes | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Byron Scott | top3 on champ |
Bill Sharman | 1stAll-NBA |
Gene Shue | 1stAll-NBA |
Jack Sikma | top3 on champ |
Paul Silas | top3 on champ |
Connie Simmons | best on runner up |
Latrell Sprewell | 1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
John Stockton | 1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Peja Stojakovic | best on best rec |
Amare Stoudemire | 1stAll-NBA,best on best rec |
Isiah Thomas | 1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
David Thompson | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Otis Thorpe | top3 on champ |
Nate Thurmond | top3mvp,best on runner up |
Wes Unseld | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Dwyane Wade | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Chet Walker | top3 on champ |
Ben Wallace | top3 on champ |
Bill Walton | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,MVP,Sporting News MVP,best on best rec,top3 on champ |
Bobby Wanzer | top3 on champ |
Chris Webber | 1stAll-NBA |
Marvin Webster | best on runner up |
Jerry West | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,Finals MVP,top3 on champ,best on runner up |
Paul Westphal | 1stAll-NBA |
Jo Jo White | Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
Jamaal Wilkes | top3 on champ |
Lenny Wilkens | top3mvp |
Dominique Wilkins | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA |
Gus Williams | 1stAll-NBA,top3 on champ |
James Worthy | Finals MVP,top3 on champ |
George Yardley | top3mvp,1stAll-NBA,best on runner up |
Max Zaslofsky | 1stAll-NBA |
Who's being unfairly included or left out? What criteria do you think need to be added/subtracted to capture the relevant players?
February 27th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Neil, I think you should pick some of these yourselves though. I know this is a stats site, and you're trying to find things with stats, but Ray Allen is only in there for Top 3 on Champ (and Top 2 on Champ would probably go to KG and Pierce).
Dennis Rodman is also in there for the same reasons as Ray Allen. Both of them are sure HoF, but wouldn't make it based on these requirements. Same goes for Ben Wallace (I would definitely call his defense relevant).
Rondo is in there for best in runner up. While I don't disagree that he was the best Celtic last year, that doesn't mean he's "relevant" enough to be a HoF.
Baffled Yao isn't on there.
Derek Fisher is statistically one of the worst players of all time. I'm not calling him a bad player (since he had to play with 2 superstars), but he's a career role player. Steve Kerr is more relevant than Derek Fisher (4 in a row, and one of the best 3pt shooters ever).
March 6th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Hoping this guy will get in someday. JOHNNY “RED” KERR – Contributor (Finalist in 2004, 2005, 2006), a native of Chicago, IL, dedicated more than 60 years of his life to the game of basketball as a player, coach, executive, and broadcaster. A three-time NBA All Star (1956, 1959, 1963) and a member of the 1955 NBA champion Syracuse Nationals, Kerr was one of basketball’s most durable players appearing in a then-record 844 consecutive games. The 1967 NBA Coach of the Year was the only coach in NBA history to lead an expansion to the playoffs in the franchise’s first season. At the Virginia Squires in the ABA, he signed both Julius Erving and George Gervin to their first pro contracts. He served as the Business Manager for the Chicago Bulls from 1973-1975 and as color commentator for the Chicago Bulls from 1975 to 2008. Kerr passed away in 2009.
June 10th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Alvan Adams in the NBA HoF ? Clifford Ray ? Peja ? Rondo ??? The gatekeeper rules are not tight enough.