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Chris Bosh and the Most Offensively Detrimental Games in Our Database (*according to statistical +/-)

Posted by Neil Paine on February 25, 2011

During Chris Bosh's brickfest last night, all I could think of was, "Wow, this is a John Starks-ian performance." Turns out it was even worse, albeit in a much less critical situation than Game 7 of the Finals.

Using offensive statistical plus/minus (OSPM), I put together a list of the most detrimental offensive games in our box score database (this spans 1987-2011 for the regular season, and 1991-2010 for the playoffs). For every game, I calculated the player's OSPM, the team's offensive rating, and what the team's offensive rating would have been had the player turned in a league-average performance. The most detrimental performances were the ones that sucked the most points from a team's offensive rating. I also added one requirement to qualify for the list: the player's offense must have cost his team a win -- i.e., with an average offensive performance from a player in his minutes, they would have outscored the opponent, but instead lost the game.

Let's use Bosh as an example. Last night, Bosh had an OSPM of -15.18, which means for every 100 possessions he was on the floor, he drained more than 15 points away from Miami's offensive rating relative to a league-average performance. Miami's actual offensive rating was 95.3, but if Bosh had just been average, Miami's rating would have been 108.5 -- meaning he cost them 13.16 points of offensive rating over the course of the entire game. Worse yet, Chicago's offensive rating was 99.6, so if Bosh had been average (or even merely below-average), Miami would have won the game. That's why Bosh qualifies for the list, because his poor offense cost his team a win.

Anyway, here are the most detrimental offensive performances in our database (mouse over column headers for descriptions):

Rk Player Date Tm Op Mp Fg Fga 3m 3a Ft Fta Or As To Pt OSPM tRt oRt w/o Diff
1 Kevin Garnett 5/2/1998 MIN SEA 43.0 3 11 0 0 1 2 1 3 10 7 -20.09 99.4 114.8 117.4 18.00
2 Eric Snow 5/26/2001 PHI MIL 40.0 1 11 0 1 2 6 0 2 6 4 -19.30 91.6 99.1 107.7 16.08
3 Kenyon Martin 6/15/2003 NJN SAS 39.0 3 23 0 2 0 0 0 1 2 6 -19.70 83.5 95.4 99.5 16.01
4 Latrell Sprewell 12/22/2001 NYK WAS 45.0 3 16 0 2 0 0 1 3 6 6 -15.97 101.2 102.4 116.2 14.97
5 Gilbert Arenas 2/15/2006 WAS DAL 45.2 4 22 0 2 4 6 0 3 6 12 -15.92 107.5 114.1 122.5 14.97
6 Jermaine O'Neal 3/30/2007 IND ORL 33.8 4 18 0 1 2 4 1 2 8 10 -20.87 91.8 100.2 106.5 14.71
7 Jamal Mashburn 3/8/2002 CHH SAC 39.0 4 18 0 0 2 5 0 0 6 10 -17.90 91.5 104.1 106.0 14.55
8 Carmelo Anthony 4/27/2004 DEN MIN 32.0 1 16 0 2 0 0 2 1 4 2 -21.56 91.8 94.0 106.1 14.37
9 Chris Kaman 11/25/2009 LAC IND 40.0 3 19 0 1 4 4 1 0 5 10 -17.26 79.2 93.3 93.6 14.37
10 Shareef Abdur-Rahim 11/27/1996 VAN DET 38.0 1 13 0 0 2 2 1 3 3 4 -18.12 97.9 109.2 112.3 14.34
11 Ron Harper 3/10/1991 LAC CLE 38.0 6 25 1 3 0 0 0 5 8 13 -17.49 100.8 106.2 114.6 13.85
12 Charles Oakley 4/12/2000 TOR IND 37.0 1 10 0 1 2 2 1 1 4 4 -17.91 85.4 90.0 99.2 13.80
13 Kenyon Martin 6/13/2003 NJN SAS 38.0 2 8 0 1 0 0 1 3 8 4 -17.42 96.7 108.3 110.5 13.79
14 LeBron James 5/6/2008 CLE BOS 38.8 2 18 0 6 8 10 2 9 10 12 -17.05 82.6 87.2 96.4 13.79
15 Ben Gordon 11/15/2009 DET DAL 40.7 1 16 0 6 3 6 1 2 4 5 -16.22 104.2 110.0 117.9 13.77
16 Terrell Brandon 11/9/2000 MIN PHI 41.0 2 15 0 2 0 1 0 5 4 4 -15.98 92.0 94.3 105.7 13.65
17 Ray Allen 6/8/2010 BOS LAL 42.2 0 13 0 8 2 2 1 2 2 2 -15.41 102.2 110.7 115.7 13.53
18 Clifford Robinson 4/29/1993 POR SAS 34.0 1 15 0 0 3 10 0 2 2 5 -18.91 95.0 96.1 108.4 13.40
19 Dwyane Wade 4/24/2004 MIA NOH 31.0 1 8 0 1 0 0 0 0 6 2 -20.71 84.2 91.3 97.6 13.38
20 Raymond Felton 3/14/2008 CHA HOU 40.2 2 14 0 2 0 0 0 4 3 4 -15.85 90.8 101.0 104.1 13.26
Rk Player Date Tm Op Mp Fg Fga 3m 3a Ft Fta Or As To Pt OSPM tRt oRt w/o Diff
21 Chris Webber 1/17/1997 WSB MIA 39.0 2 13 0 2 0 2 2 2 5 4 -16.29 99.6 111.5 112.8 13.24
22 Stephen Jackson 2/22/2010 CHA LAC 39.1 1 16 0 5 5 7 1 5 5 7 -16.23 105.2 109.6 118.4 13.23
23 Raymond Felton 11/29/2008 CHA BOS 41.0 2 15 0 3 0 0 1 6 6 4 -15.42 97.0 102.8 110.2 13.17
24 Chris Bosh 2/24/2011 MIA CHI 41.6 1 18 0 0 5 6 1 1 1 7 -15.18 95.3 99.6 108.5 13.16
25 Tyrone Corbin 12/13/1990 MIN NYK 36.0 2 13 0 0 1 2 1 2 4 5 -17.38 84.5 96.8 97.6 13.03
26 Andrew Lang 4/2/1993 PHI POR 32.0 0 4 0 1 0 0 1 0 5 0 -19.45 106.6 112.4 119.5 12.97
27 Sam Perkins 11/9/1988 DAL PHO 43.0 3 16 0 1 1 1 1 1 5 7 -14.32 103.1 111.1 115.9 12.83
28 Tom Gugliotta 11/24/1992 WSB NYK 21.0 0 8 0 1 0 0 2 2 7 0 -29.31 90.9 101.2 103.7 12.82
29 Antonio Daniels 4/10/2006 WAS PHI 44.2 2 11 0 1 0 0 0 6 6 4 -13.90 102.5 111.0 115.3 12.80
30 Vin Baker 2/26/2001 SEA BOS 43.0 3 13 0 0 2 6 2 1 6 8 -14.25 89.1 92.4 101.9 12.77
31 Andrew Bogut 2/16/2011 MIL DEN 44.8 1 7 0 0 1 4 1 2 3 3 -13.68 91.9 99.3 104.7 12.76
32 Andray Blatche 12/31/2010 WAS IND 34.1 4 16 0 1 0 0 3 0 6 8 -17.93 89.7 99.1 102.4 12.75
33 Channing Frye 12/9/2005 NYK PHO 38.2 4 19 0 0 0 0 2 1 5 8 -16.03 85.2 89.4 98.0 12.75
34 Jerry Stackhouse 11/26/2002 WAS IND 39.0 2 16 0 3 2 2 0 3 3 6 -15.69 95.6 100.1 108.3 12.75
35 Yakhouba Diawara 12/31/2006 DEN DAL 40.1 0 11 0 4 1 2 1 1 2 1 -15.13 86.9 91.0 99.6 12.62
36 Allan Houston 1/27/2004 NYK SAS 30.0 2 13 0 2 3 3 0 2 6 7 -20.17 75.5 86.8 88.1 12.61
37 Antonio Davis 11/16/2000 TOR POR 45.0 0 11 0 0 1 2 3 1 1 1 -13.44 91.7 98.6 104.3 12.60
38 Corey Brewer 12/15/2007 MIN MIL 36.3 2 13 0 1 0 0 0 3 3 4 -16.60 111.1 114.7 123.7 12.56
39 Kevin Willis 5/3/1994 ATL MIA 36.0 0 8 0 0 2 2 2 0 4 2 -16.72 97.2 101.7 109.7 12.54
40 Dwight Howard 12/25/2009 ORL BOS 43.7 1 7 0 0 3 4 3 1 7 5 -13.68 81.5 91.0 94.0 12.44
Rk Player Date Tm Op Mp Fg Fga 3m 3a Ft Fta Or As To Pt OSPM tRt oRt w/o Diff
41 Bobby Phills 2/5/1997 CLE TOR 31.0 1 13 0 2 0 0 1 2 2 2 -19.24 102.8 108.9 115.2 12.43
42 Joe Dumars 12/6/1994 DET IND 36.0 0 8 0 2 1 1 0 3 4 1 -16.55 88.6 96.1 101.0 12.41
43 Clifford Robinson 1/23/2001 PHO MIN 36.0 3 14 0 1 0 2 1 2 5 6 -16.54 79.3 89.1 91.7 12.40
44 Damon Jones 4/16/2008 CLE DET 36.5 1 12 0 4 2 2 0 2 3 4 -16.29 91.3 103.6 103.7 12.40
45 Damien Wilkins 12/9/2007 SEA NOH 28.0 1 10 0 1 0 0 1 1 5 2 -21.22 94.6 97.8 106.9 12.38
46 Karl Malone 2/24/1996 UTA DEN 42.0 7 25 0 0 1 6 2 0 4 15 -14.04 93.3 102.6 105.6 12.29
47 Aaron McKie 12/23/1999 PHI NJN 34.0 0 9 0 2 0 0 1 2 4 0 -17.33 108.0 113.8 120.3 12.28
48 Rafer Alston 4/9/2006 HOU SAC 37.1 0 11 0 4 1 2 1 9 6 1 -15.87 92.5 103.3 104.8 12.25
49 Toni Kukoc 2/28/1994 CHI CLE 23.0 0 9 0 3 0 0 0 3 4 0 -25.55 95.9 105.3 108.1 12.24
50 Elton Brand 12/10/2008 PHI CLE 35.0 3 11 0 0 0 0 4 1 7 6 -16.75 103.1 111.9 115.3 12.23
51 Andre Miller 3/27/2004 DEN UTA 42.0 1 15 0 0 5 6 5 3 7 7 -13.97 101.4 103.8 113.6 12.22
52 Mike Woodson 11/27/1987 LAC POR 24.0 0 10 0 1 0 0 1 4 5 0 -24.43 86.7 96.7 98.9 12.22
53 Benoit Benjamin 2/18/1995 NJN CLE 36.0 4 12 0 0 1 1 2 0 6 9 -16.26 91.5 100.0 103.7 12.20
54 Mookie Blaylock 3/7/1991 NJN SAS 35.0 3 12 0 2 0 0 0 2 6 6 -16.70 95.0 106.6 107.2 12.18
55 Hakeem Olajuwon 2/21/1997 HOU ATL 39.0 3 11 0 0 3 4 5 0 7 9 -14.98 89.3 91.7 101.5 12.17
56 Mo Williams 12/17/2005 MIL UTA 38.7 3 15 0 5 2 2 0 2 5 8 -15.06 92.9 102.1 105.0 12.16
57 Hersey Hawkins 1/26/1991 PHI CHH 43.0 4 16 0 2 1 2 0 5 6 9 -13.56 81.0 85.3 93.1 12.15
58 Allan Houston 11/3/2001 NYK CHI 33.0 2 11 0 1 1 1 0 2 6 5 -17.61 84.5 89.9 96.7 12.11
59 Herb Williams 1/15/1990 DAL DEN 36.0 2 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 4 -16.14 94.9 106.5 107.0 12.11
60 Glenn Robinson 11/23/1994 MIL DET 37.0 2 14 0 1 5 9 1 3 6 9 -15.70 108.5 113.5 120.6 12.11
Rk Player Date Tm Op Mp Fg Fga 3m 3a Ft Fta Or As To Pt OSPM tRt oRt w/o Diff
61 Marcus Camby 4/10/1998 TOR MIA 32.0 0 10 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 -20.01 99.8 105.5 111.9 12.08
62 Brian Shaw 11/19/1996 ORL NYK 26.0 0 7 0 1 0 0 0 1 4 0 -22.23 91.5 95.7 103.5 12.04
63 Randy Foye 11/2/2008 MIN OKC 29.8 0 10 0 3 2 2 0 6 5 2 -19.37 97.6 101.0 109.6 12.03
64 Ricky Davis 4/25/2005 BOS IND 36.0 1 8 0 0 4 4 1 1 5 6 -16.04 100.0 103.8 112.1 12.03
65 Anthony Peeler 2/26/1997 VAN LAC 27.0 1 10 0 5 0 0 0 4 6 2 -21.39 86.5 89.8 98.5 12.03
66 Dwight Howard 1/20/2007 ORL NJN 25.8 0 6 0 0 1 2 1 1 5 1 -22.40 103.9 111.6 115.9 12.01
67 Corey Maggette 3/12/2004 LAC MEM 31.0 2 10 0 2 4 6 0 0 7 8 -18.59 96.8 106.5 108.8 12.01
68 Cedric Henderson 1/30/1998 CLE IND 41.0 1 9 0 0 0 0 1 1 3 2 -14.04 101.2 108.5 113.2 12.00
69 Mookie Blaylock 3/7/1992 NJN SEA 33.0 0 10 0 1 2 2 0 4 5 2 -17.44 94.9 105.6 106.9 11.99
70 Kenyon Martin 1/23/2003 NJN GSW 40.0 4 21 0 1 2 4 4 2 3 10 -14.32 110.9 120.0 122.8 11.93
71 Dwight Howard 3/19/2008 ORL WAS 31.4 1 6 0 0 1 2 0 0 4 3 -18.22 99.2 100.3 111.1 11.93
72 Allen Iverson 12/21/2002 PHI ATL 41.0 6 28 0 4 1 1 1 2 4 13 -13.94 87.7 89.9 99.6 11.91
73 Allan Houston 12/14/2000 NYK TOR 38.0 4 14 0 2 1 1 0 1 6 9 -14.99 81.8 84.2 93.6 11.87
74 Dirk Nowitzki 2/20/2009 DAL HOU 43.2 4 18 0 0 1 1 0 2 2 9 -13.20 93.8 101.5 105.7 11.87
75 Bonzi Wells 2/3/2006 SAC UTA 36.3 3 11 0 0 2 5 7 0 9 8 -15.66 91.7 103.3 103.5 11.84
76 Derrick Coleman 11/16/1993 NJN HOU 38.0 2 13 0 2 4 7 2 2 5 8 -14.92 88.7 95.0 100.5 11.82
77 Eric Snow 12/16/2006 CLE ORL 25.9 0 5 0 1 0 4 0 2 4 0 -21.86 85.3 93.4 97.1 11.77
78 Tom Gugliotta 3/12/1993 WSB NYK 38.0 2 13 0 0 0 2 1 1 2 4 -14.86 100.2 111.5 112.0 11.76
79 Vince Carter 4/22/2001 TOR NYK 46.0 5 22 0 1 3 5 2 5 5 13 -12.22 92.7 100.3 104.4 11.71
80 Dwyane Wade 11/11/2010 MIA BOS 40.2 2 12 0 5 4 6 0 3 6 8 -13.99 118.9 124.4 130.6 11.71
Rk Player Date Tm Op Mp Fg Fga 3m 3a Ft Fta Or As To Pt OSPM tRt oRt w/o Diff
81 Byron Scott 6/7/1991 LAL CHI 43.0 0 8 0 3 0 2 0 3 2 0 -14.41 104.9 113.6 116.6 11.70
82 Pace Mannion 12/6/1986 NJN PHI 26.0 0 8 0 1 0 0 0 5 5 0 -21.58 106.6 111.9 118.2 11.69
83 Mitch Richmond 4/9/1999 WAS CHH 39.0 2 14 0 2 1 2 0 3 3 5 -14.38 98.2 100.5 109.9 11.68
84 Dennis Johnson 1/9/1988 BOS NYK 41.0 3 14 0 1 2 2 1 6 9 8 -13.66 100.0 108.2 111.7 11.67
85 Dirk Nowitzki 12/23/2003 DAL POR 42.0 3 12 0 3 0 0 1 2 5 6 -13.33 105.2 116.0 116.9 11.66
86 Latrell Sprewell 1/11/2001 NYK HOU 40.0 1 11 0 0 3 4 2 4 6 5 -13.97 85.1 86.3 96.8 11.64
87 Hot Rod Williams 3/12/1994 CLE NYK 32.0 2 11 0 0 1 2 3 3 6 5 -17.44 94.7 105.7 106.4 11.62
88 Mike Bibby 4/23/2005 SAC SEA 37.0 1 16 0 6 1 2 2 4 2 3 -15.08 102.7 109.0 114.3 11.62
89 Loy Vaught 3/15/1996 LAC POR 34.0 0 6 0 0 0 0 1 1 4 0 -16.39 86.5 94.2 98.2 11.61
90 Steve Smith 3/24/1995 ATL CLE 38.0 1 11 1 7 1 1 1 3 4 4 -14.63 88.8 90.1 100.4 11.58
91 Eric Snow 3/20/2002 PHI MIA 41.0 2 14 0 3 1 2 0 1 2 5 -13.53 95.0 101.1 106.5 11.56
92 Jamal Mashburn 3/9/1997 MIA CHH 35.0 0 10 0 6 0 0 0 1 1 0 -15.84 86.4 93.2 98.0 11.55
93 Rony Seikaly 1/18/1996 GSW MIL 32.0 2 10 0 0 0 0 3 1 5 4 -17.30 107.1 111.5 118.6 11.53
94 Dikembe Mutombo 11/3/1995 DEN LAL 43.0 2 7 0 0 3 4 5 0 7 7 -12.86 98.4 100.4 109.9 11.52
95 Andre Iguodala 4/14/2008 PHI CLE 43.4 4 17 0 3 2 4 0 1 3 10 -12.73 101.7 102.8 113.2 11.50
96 Chris Webber 3/2/2005 PHI NJN 36.0 4 18 0 0 2 2 1 3 5 10 -15.30 98.0 104.4 109.5 11.48
97 Scottie Pippen 4/25/1993 CHI NYK 34.0 2 16 0 2 0 0 1 2 2 4 -16.20 95.1 100.7 106.5 11.48
98 Richard Hamilton 5/11/2005 DET IND 40.0 6 17 0 1 2 2 1 2 7 14 -13.75 95.2 105.5 106.7 11.46
99 Josh Smith 4/16/2005 ATL CHI 39.0 2 12 0 1 3 6 2 3 5 7 -14.09 117.5 127.6 128.9 11.45
100 Gerald Wilkins 11/5/1993 CLE MIL 21.0 1 6 0 1 0 0 0 0 6 2 -26.12 97.8 101.0 109.2 11.43

Starks is actually well down the list at #501; still, with an OSPM of -11.59, he cost the Knicks 9.18 points of offensive rating and dragged their ORtg down to 84.2 when 91.7 would have been sufficient to beat the Rockets and win an NBA title.

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26 Responses to “Chris Bosh and the Most Offensively Detrimental Games in Our Database (*according to statistical +/-)”

  1. Greyberger Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I love that a bunch of these were during the playoffs. When I read 'Kenyon Martin' and '2003', I knew right away it was one of his stinkbomb games in the Finals that let the Spurs clinch that year. K-Mart in the '03 Finals made #3 and #13 on this list.

    In Game Five he goes two of eight with eight turnovers, and in Game Six he's three for twenty-three with two TO. Meanwhile Duncan was putting up lines like this:

    Game Five: 10-18 FG for 29 points, 17 rebounds (3 offensive), 4 assists, 4 blocks
    Game Six: 9-19 FG for 21 points, 20 rebounds (4 offensive), 10 assists, 8 blocks

    That's got to be one of the most one-sided match-ups in a playoff series.

  2. AYC Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Can I nominate Danny Ainge for most detrimental performance?

  3. Neil Paine Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    As a player or a GM? :)

  4. Jason J Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    #1 That matchup was a nightmare scenario. Kenyon, a natural 3/4, defending Timmy, a natural 4/5, straight up on an inured knee. I remember screaming at the TV for Scott to give Dikembe some minutes, but alas the TV rarely listens to me.

  5. Jason J Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    #3 Must as a GM. He only put together a champion that was a couple gimpy knees away from making and possibly winning 3 consecutive finals. Red's laughing at him from beyond the veil.

  6. Neil Paine Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    I agree, he has a pretty good batting average since 2007. We'll see if yesterday's trade was a solid RBI double in the gap or an inning-ending DP. For now, I agree with this tweet:

    "The worst thing about this trade is it outs Danny Ainge as one of 'those guys.' That being people people who don't realize Jeff Green Sucks."

  7. AYC Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    I don't give Ainge too much credit for getting an old teammate to trade him one of the top 5 power forwards of all-time....

  8. henry abbott Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Do you know who is missing from this list? KOBE BRYANT. all the while KG, Lebron, Wade and Melo are top 20

  9. Neil Paine Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    It's true, Kobe's most detrimental performance came in this game (ranked as the 136th-worst):

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200106060LAL.html

    In Game 1 of the 2001 Finals, Kobe went 7-for-22 but he did have 5 assists for a -11.27 OSPM. Of course, had he played at an average level in that game, they would have gone Three-Fo-Fo-Fo...

  10. Jason J Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Is that really you, Henry? I did notice that. No Kobe and no MJ. You'd think to high usage gunners like that would have misfired their way onto this list at some point.

  11. Neil Paine Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    MJ's worst game is all the way down at #523:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505070ORL.html

    8-for-22 & 8 turnovers, but managed 3 assists & 2 offensive boards for a -10.95 OSPM.

  12. AYC Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    And that was after the baseball sabbatical....

  13. The J Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Surprised MJ's worst game was not in a Washington uniform. Though I would imagine his worst game was in a Birmingham uniform.

  14. Neil Paine Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Jordan's worst as a Wiz:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200201150WAS.html

    Jordan was clearly a worse player in Washington, but his minutes and shots per game were down, giving him fewer opportunities to shoot the Wizards out of a game. Also, to make the list you had to actively cause your team to lose a winnable game with your offensive performance, and Jordan was involved in fewer of those types of games during his 2nd comeback.

  15. Anon Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    "Do you know who is missing from this list? KOBE BRYANT. all the while KG, Lebron, Wade and Melo are top 20"

    Which could mean that when Kobe stinks it up (and he has certaintly done that many times) his teams around him usually play well enough to offset his suckfest. Notably on defense - see Game 7 of the 2010 Finals.

  16. Jaydub Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Poor (real) Henry Abbott. So much vitriol directed against him, so little of it based on any real understanding of what he said.

    If you want to attack his position on Kobe not being an exceptionally good shooter in certain crunch-time situations, use an argument that makes sense. "ZOMG KEVIN GARNETT HAD A BAD GAME OVER TWELVE YEARS AGO!!" does not qualify.

  17. Nick C Says:
    February 25th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Jordan's true worst performance was during the 1990 All star 3 point comp.

  18. Sean Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Makes sense that a lot of these are playoff games where teams are allowed to play defense and it becomes more of a grind on every offensive possession. A more telling search might be something like career number of offensively detrimental games.

  19. yariv Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    I would say Kobe and MJ absence from the top 100 list is meaningless. A single horrible performance says nothing, in my opinion. KG, James and Melo appears once in the top 100, Wade twice. Does it mean anything? I don't think so.

  20. DWarner Says:
    February 27th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Interesting. How about a piece on the worst performances where a player was bailed out and ended up with the win despite his hideous performance that night?
    ala Paul Pierce's 40 minutes vs. LeBron and the Heat where he went 0-10 and managed 1 point on a victorious night.

  21. Art Says:
    February 27th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Neil, can you make another table without the w/l requirement? I'd like to see Jordan worst game when the team won (or when they were going to lose anyway). There are only a handful of these types of games that players such as Jordan or Kobe have in their careers.

  22. Frank N Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    "an OSPM of -15.18, which means for every minute he was on the floor, he drained more than 15 points away from Miami's offensive rating relative to a league-average performance."

    Could someone explain what this means?

    If Bosh played 40 minutes as he often does, at -<15 for every minute, that's -<600 points from the rating over the game, yet Miami's rating is 95.3 for the game.

    What?

  23. Neil Paine Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Here were the 100 worst overall games (thru last Thursday), regardless of whether they cost a win or not (although 42% of them did cost a win):

    Player GameID MP OSPM Cost
    Kevin Garnett 199805020SEA 43.0 -20.09 18.00
    Eric Snow 200105260MIL 40.0 -19.30 16.08
    Kenyon Martin 200306150SAS 39.0 -19.70 16.01
    Tom Gugliotta 199603130MIN 33.0 -22.36 15.37
    David Wesley 200104120CHH 28.0 -25.83 15.06
    Larry Hughes 200703170CLE 40.3 -17.87 15.02
    Latrell Sprewell 200112220NYK 45.0 -15.97 14.97
    Gilbert Arenas 200602150DAL 45.2 -15.92 14.97
    Samardo Samuels 201101110LAL 32.9 -21.56 14.78
    Thurl Bailey 198611150UTA 30.0 -23.54 14.71
    Jermaine O'Neal 200703300ORL 33.8 -20.87 14.71
    Jamal Mashburn 200203080SAC 39.0 -17.90 14.55
    Carmelo Anthony 200404270DEN 32.0 -21.56 14.37
    Chris Kaman 200911250IND 40.0 -17.26 14.37
    Larry Drew 199004220POR 44.0 -15.66 14.36
    Shareef Abdur-Rahim 199611270DET 38.0 -18.12 14.34
    Vin Baker 200001170LAL 41.0 -16.67 14.24
    Kelenna Azubuike 200904130GSW 41.7 -16.37 14.20
    Adam Morrison 200612080CHA 29.7 -22.56 13.95
    Shawn Bradley 199401150CLE 43.0 -15.53 13.91
    Ron Harper 199103100LAC 38.0 -17.49 13.85
    Charles Oakley 200004120IND 37.0 -17.91 13.80
    Kenyon Martin 200306130NJN 38.0 -17.42 13.79
    LeBron James 200805060BOS 38.8 -17.05 13.79
    Ben Gordon 200911150DET 40.7 -16.22 13.77
    Dwyane Wade 201011220MIA 37.5 -17.51 13.69
    Jamal Crawford 200712080NYK 38.4 -17.11 13.67
    Scottie Pippen 199205070CHI 43.0 -15.24 13.65
    Terrell Brandon 200011090MIN 41.0 -15.98 13.65
    Paul Pierce 200805060BOS 29.2 -22.47 13.64
    D.J. Augustin 201012110CHA 32.4 -20.15 13.59
    Ray Allen 201006080BOS 42.2 -15.41 13.53
    Dale Ellis 199611190DEN 38.0 -17.03 13.48
    Kevin Duckworth 199105240LAL 29.0 -22.29 13.46
    Amare Stoudemire 201011040CHI 37.4 -17.26 13.43
    Clifford Robinson 199304290POR 34.0 -18.91 13.40
    Dwyane Wade 200404240NOH 31.0 -20.71 13.38
    Andrew Lang 199601150ATL 30.0 -21.31 13.32
    Terry Davis 199301160DEN 39.0 -16.39 13.31
    Richard Hamilton 200504110CHI 38.0 -18.52 13.28
    Raymond Felton 200803140HOU 40.2 -15.85 13.26
    Chris Webber 199701170WSB 39.0 -16.29 13.24
    Stephen Jackson 201002220LAC 39.1 -16.23 13.23
    Chris Mills 199603070CLE 46.0 -13.78 13.21
    Allen Iverson 200003020WAS 43.0 -14.71 13.18
    Raymond Felton 200811290CHA 41.0 -15.42 13.17
    Chris Bosh 201102240CHI 41.6 -15.18 13.16
    Erick Strickland 199802260MIA 29.0 -21.78 13.16
    Josh Smith 200712110ATL 28.1 -22.44 13.15
    Glenn Robinson 199512200DET 40.0 -15.76 13.14
    Chris Kaman 200712270LAC 41.1 -15.34 13.13
    Raymond Felton 200903280CHA 33.5 -18.79 13.12
    Larry Johnson 199512120PHO 44.0 -14.26 13.07
    Tyrone Corbin 199012130MIN 36.0 -17.38 13.03
    Rex Chapman 198912120CHH 30.0 -20.76 12.97
    Andrew Lang 199304020PHI 32.0 -19.45 12.97
    Paul Pierce 201102130BOS 39.6 -15.72 12.96
    Richard Hamilton 200202240MIA 38.0 -16.30 12.90
    Sam Perkins 198811090PHO 43.0 -14.32 12.83
    Tom Gugliotta 199211240NYK 21.0 -29.31 12.82
    Anthony Avent 199604180VAN 42.0 -14.64 12.81
    Antonio Daniels 200604100PHI 44.2 -13.90 12.80
    Hot Rod Williams 199003020LAL 23.0 -26.71 12.80
    Allan Houston 199905200ATL 27.0 -22.75 12.80
    Josh Smith 200802250SAS 34.9 -17.60 12.78
    Chris Mills 199501140GSW 35.0 -19.35 12.78
    Tracy McGrady 200602120HOU 37.7 -16.27 12.78
    Marvin Williams 200704140CLE 40.8 -15.05 12.78
    Rajon Rondo 200801040BOS 27.9 -22.00 12.77
    Vin Baker 200102260BOS 43.0 -14.25 12.77
    Andrew Bogut 201102160MIL 44.8 -13.68 12.76
    Rasheed Wallace 200611080SAC 35.7 -17.14 12.75
    Andray Blatche 201012310IND 34.1 -17.93 12.75
    Channing Frye 200512090PHO 38.2 -16.03 12.75
    Jerry Stackhouse 200211260WAS 39.0 -15.69 12.75
    Blue Edwards 199512210SEA 28.0 -21.84 12.74
    Kevin Garnett 199912110MIN 38.0 -16.07 12.72
    Michael Jordan 200201190CHI 41.0 -14.88 12.71
    Trevor Ariza 200912130TOR 26.3 -23.19 12.68
    Ben Gordon 200703140PHI 32.3 -18.87 12.68
    Carlos Boozer 200801050POR 35.1 -17.30 12.65
    Ronald Murray 200512280MIN 27.7 -21.87 12.63
    Lionel Simmons 199102020NYK 33.0 -18.36 12.62
    Yakhouba Diawara 200612310DEN 40.1 -15.13 12.62
    Allan Houston 200401270NYK 30.0 -20.17 12.61
    Antonio Davis 200011160TOR 45.0 -13.44 12.60
    Stephon Marbury 199711210MIN 31.0 -19.50 12.59
    Zach Randolph 200412180DET 39.0 -15.49 12.58
    Corey Brewer 200712150MIL 36.3 -16.60 12.56
    Vin Baker 199603270UTA 40.0 -15.06 12.55
    Kevin Willis 199405030MIA 36.0 -16.72 12.54
    Ruben Patterson 200211080PHO 23.0 -26.15 12.53
    Isiah Thomas 199204240NYK 29.0 -20.74 12.53
    Dwight Howard 200912250ORL 43.7 -13.68 12.44
    John Amaechi 200012010ORL 38.0 -15.70 12.43
    Bobby Phills 199702050TOR 31.0 -19.24 12.43
    Steve Francis 200401050HOU 43.0 -13.87 12.42
    Jermaine O'Neal 200902110TOR 38.1 -15.66 12.42
    Clifford Robinson 200202120DET 30.0 -19.86 12.41
    Joe Dumars 199412060IND 36.0 -16.55 12.41

    Jordan's worst overall came here, but it did not cost Washington a win:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200201190CHI.html

    Ditto this Kobe game:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200802050NJN.html

  24. Neil Paine Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    #22 - Sorry, that was confusing. It's weighted by minutes, which is what I was driving at, but it for every possession when he was on the floor, he decreased Miami's expected points per possession average by 15 points of offensive rating.

    Say for instance that when he was on the floor they scored 95 points per 100 possessions. Then if he had been average they would have been expected to score 110 pts/100 possessions.

    I changed the wording in the post -- it's probably still confusing, but hopefully you get what I mean.

  25. Mo Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    "Which could mean that when Kobe stinks it up (and he has certaintly done that many times) his teams around him usually play well enough to offset his suckfest. Notably on defense - see Game 7 of the 2010 Finals."

    You also have to consider that aside from his poor shooting, he did a lot to help the team win. He had more rebounds than anyone on the Celtics, 15 (4 offensive), only 4 TOs, 1 steal and scored 11 points from the free throw line. So while he had an off game, he didn't have a terrible game.

  26. Frank N Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    "an OSPM of -15.18, which means for every 100 possessions he was on the floor, he drained more than 15 points away from Miami's offensive rating relative to a league-average performance."

    Thanx, yes, this is much more understandable (and says something completely different from the version it replaced)

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