1962 |
80.6 |
Wilt Chamberlain (24), Walt Bellamy (17), Oscar Robertson (16), Jerry West (13), Bailey Howell (11) |
1953 |
76.7 |
Neil Johnston (18), Ed Macauley (17), Dolph Schayes (15), Vern Mikkelsen (14), Harry Gallatin (13) |
1954 |
76.0 |
Neil Johnston (21), Dolph Schayes (17), Ed Macauley (17), Larry Foust (12), Ray Felix (10) |
1988 |
75.9 |
Michael Jordan (21), Charles Barkley (17), John Stockton (14), Clyde Drexler (13), Hakeem Olajuwon (11) |
2009 |
75.6 |
LeBron James (20), Chris Paul (18), Dwight Howard (14), Brandon Roy (13), Rajon Rondo (10) |
1952 |
75.0 |
Paul Arizin (20), Ed Macauley (17), Vern Mikkelsen (16), Harry Gallatin (11), Dolph Schayes (11) |
1964 |
74.9 |
Oscar Robertson (21), Walt Bellamy (15), Jerry West (14), Jerry Lucas (13), Terry Dischinger (12) |
1989 |
74.5 |
Michael Jordan (20), Charles Barkley (16), Karl Malone (15), Kevin Johnson (12), Mark Price (11) |
2010 |
73.9 |
LeBron James (21), Kevin Durant (15), Dwight Howard (13), Chris Bosh (13), Chris Paul (12) |
2008 |
71.8 |
Chris Paul (18), LeBron James (15), Amare Stoudemire (15), Dwight Howard (13), DeRon Williams (11) |
2003 |
71.3 |
Dirk Nowitzki (16), Tracy McGrady (16), Kobe Bryant (15), Shawn Marion (13), Steve Francis (11) |
2002 |
70.4 |
Tim Duncan (18), Elton Brand (14), Dirk Nowitzki (13), Paul Pierce (13), Kevin Garnett (13) |
1973 |
68.8 |
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (22), Tiny Archibald (14), Dave Cowens (12), Bob Lanier (11), Spencer Haywood (10) |
2006 |
68.0 |
LeBron James (16), Dwyane Wade (14), Gilbert Arenas (14), Pau Gasol (12), Richard Jefferson (12) |
1971 |
68.0 |
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (22), Walt Frazier (16), Stu Lantz (10), Wes Unseld (10), Bob Dandridge (10) |
2001 |
66.7 |
Dirk Nowitzki (15), Ray Allen (14), Tim Duncan (13), Vince Carter (13), Steve Francis (12) |
1972 |
66.4 |
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (25), Tiny Archibald (13), Dave Cowens (10), Bob Dandridge (9), Spencer Haywood (9) |
1960 |
63.8 |
Wilt Chamberlain (19), Bill Russell (15), Elgin Baylor (13), Jack Twyman (9), Tom Heinsohn (8) |
1991 |
63.8 |
David Robinson (17), Kevin Johnson (13), Reggie Miller (12), Scottie Pippen (11), Horace Grant (10) |
2005 |
63.3 |
Amare Stoudemire (15), LeBron James (14), Tracy McGrady (12), Gilbert Arenas (12), Dwyane Wade (11) |
1974 |
61.6 |
Bob McAdoo (15), Bob Lanier (14), Rudy Tomjanovich (13), Spencer Haywood (10), Dave Cowens (9) |
1961 |
60.8 |
Wilt Chamberlain (20), Oscar Robertson (14), Bailey Howell (12), Hal Greer (8), Rudy LaRusso (7) |
1982 |
60.6 |
Sidney Moncrief (13), Magic Johnson (13), Adrian Dantley (13), Larry Bird (12), Calvin Natt (9) |
1987 |
60.3 |
Michael Jordan (17), Charles Barkley (12), Hakeem Olajuwon (11), Doc Rivers (10), Clyde Drexler (10) |
1981 |
60.2 |
Moses Malone (14), Adrian Dantley (14), Marques Johnson (11), Cedric Maxwell (11), Larry Bird (11) |
1970 |
59.4 |
Walt Frazier (15), Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (14), Wes Unseld (11), Lou Hudson (11), Elvin Hayes (9) |
1985 |
58.8 |
Michael Jordan (14), Magic Johnson (13), Isiah Thomas (11), Terry Cummings (11), Hakeem Olajuwon (10) |
1983 |
58.6 |
Sidney Moncrief (13), Magic Johnson (13), Buck Williams (11), Kiki Vandeweghe (11), Larry Nance (10) |
1990 |
58.3 |
David Robinson (15), Reggie Miller (12), Kevin Johnson (12), Mark Price (10), Charles Smith (9) |
1979 |
57.7 |
Moses Malone (14), Marques Johnson (12), Cedric Maxwell (12), World B. Free (10), Norm Nixon (10) |
1978 |
57.6 |
David Thompson (13), Adrian Dantley (12), George Gervin (12), Marques Johnson (11), Walter Davis (10) |
1980 |
57.4 |
Cedric Maxwell (12), Moses Malone (12), Marques Johnson (12), Larry Bird (11), Adrian Dantley (11) |
2007 |
57.2 |
LeBron James (14), Luol Deng (11), Amare Stoudemire (11), Gilbert Arenas (11), Kevin Martin (10) |
2000 |
57.2 |
Tim Duncan (13), Vince Carter (12), Kevin Garnett (12), Kobe Bryant (11), Ray Allen (10) |
1999 |
57.1 |
Tim Duncan (14), Jason Kidd (13), Allen Iverson (12), Kevin Garnett (9), Theo Ratliff (9) |
1959 |
56.8 |
Kenny Sears (15), Bill Russell (15), Elgin Baylor (11), Jack Twyman (8), Tom Heinsohn (7) |
1996 |
56.7 |
Anfernee Hardaway (14), Terrell Brandon (13), Grant Hill (12), Alonzo Mourning (10), Gheorghe Muresan (8) |
2004 |
56.1 |
Andrei Kirilenko (12), Dirk Nowitzki (12), Yao Ming (11), Richard Jefferson (11), Kobe Bryant (11) |
1963 |
55.9 |
Oscar Robertson (17), Walt Bellamy (14), Terry Dischinger (9), Jerry West (8), Tom Sanders (7) |
1994 |
55.7 |
Shaquille O'Neal (17), Shawn Kemp (12), Stacey Augmon (10), Gary Payton (9), Steve Smith (8) |
1958 |
55.5 |
Bill Russell (13), Bob Pettit (13), Kenny Sears (11), Jack Twyman (11), Tom Gola (8) |
1955 |
53.4 |
Neil Johnston (18), Bob Pettit (12), Clyde Lovellette (10), Ray Felix (8), Red Kerr (6) |
1995 |
53.3 |
Shaquille O'Neal (14), Anfernee Hardaway (11), Shawn Kemp (11), Alonzo Mourning (9), Larry Johnson (9) |
1977 |
53.1 |
Bobby Jones (11), David Thompson (11), Billy Knight (11), George Gervin (11), Bill Walton (10) |
1998 |
52.2 |
Tim Duncan (13), Grant Hill (10), Shaquille O'Neal (10), Kevin Garnett (10), Antonio McDyess (9) |
1969 |
52.1 |
Walt Frazier (13), Wes Unseld (11), Lou Hudson (10), Elvin Hayes (10), Billy Cunningham (9) |
1976 |
51.8 |
Bob McAdoo (12), John Drew (11), Doug Collins (10), Paul Westphal (10), Phil Smith (9) |
1975 |
51.3 |
Bob McAdoo (18), Sidney Wicks (10), Phil Chenier (9), Doug Collins (8), Spencer Haywood (7) |
1965 |
50.9 |
Walt Bellamy (12), Zelmo Beaty (11), Terry Dischinger (11), Jerry Lucas (10), Dave DeBusschere (7) |
1997 |
50.0 |
Grant Hill (15), Eddie Jones (10), Chris Webber (9), Vin Baker (8), Anfernee Hardaway (8) |
1984 |
49.4 |
Kiki Vandeweghe (10), Magic Johnson (10), Larry Nance (10), Rolando Blackman (10), Jeff Ruland (9) |
1957 |
49.1 |
Bob Pettit (13), Jack Twyman (10), Kenny Sears (9), Dick Garmaker (9), Tom Heinsohn (8) |
1986 |
47.3 |
Charles Barkley (11), Hakeem Olajuwon (10), James Worthy (9), Isiah Thomas (9), Alvin Robertson (9) |
1992 |
46.8 |
Kevin Johnson (10), Danny Manning (10), Tim Hardaway (9), MicheAl Williams (9), Larry Johnson (9) |
1993 |
46.8 |
Shaquille O'Neal (10), Larry Johnson (10), Derrick Coleman (9), Shawn Kemp (9), Alonzo Mourning (8) |
1956 |
44.8 |
Bob Pettit (16), Bob Houbregs (8), Tom Gola (7), Kenny Sears (7), Maurice Stokes (7) |
1967 |
43.3 |
Rick Barry (15), Willis Reed (8), Nate Thurmond (7), Billy Cunningham (7), Jerry Sloan (7) |
1968 |
39.2 |
Willis Reed (10), Earl Monroe (9), Paul Silas (7), Happy Hairston (7), Bob Rule (6) |
1966 |
38.6 |
Rick Barry (11), Jerry Lucas (8), Chet Walker (8), Eddie Miles (6), Don Nelson (5) |
February 20th, 2010 at 3:35 am
I've asked this a few times but have either missed the response, or not had one. Why are we so persistent in rating a player by Win Shares?
At any rate, nice study.
Mark Price really caught me off guard.
February 20th, 2010 at 4:25 am
Wow, I never knew Penny Hardaway was that good.
February 20th, 2010 at 5:56 am
A few seasons into his career, during the Jordan banishment, Hardaway was one of the names my friends and I threw around when talking about how the best player in the NBA was. The answer was Olajuwon, but Hardaway was in the running....I guess it's nice to see the "advanced" stats show we weren't crazy.
I never noticed how bad his FG% dropped after O'Neal left. Interesting.
February 21st, 2010 at 5:20 am
interesting information but this is definitely skewed towards the mid 90s and beyond due to the increase of early entrants....
February 21st, 2010 at 6:29 am
Johnny twisto,
I noticed the FG% drop as well but I don't think all of it is attributed to Shaq. Look at his games without Shaq while he played in Orlando.
93-94: 1 game 8/20 40%, 21 pts, 9 asts, 4 rbs, 4 stls, 1-0 record
94-95: 3 games, 43/71 60.6%, 31 ppg, 5.7 apg, 4.7 rpg, 1.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 2-1 record
95-96: 28 games, 226/445 50.8%, 25.5, 6.4 apg, 4.9 rpg, 1.96 spg, 0.7 bpg, 20-8 record
Totals: 32 games, 51.7 FG%, (277/536), 25.8 ppg, 6.4 apg, 4.9 rpg, 2.0 spg, 0.7 bpg, 23-9 record
Those are Hardaway's numbers when he was healthy without Shaq. In 96-97 he was a 45% shooter while his injuries wee starting, 97-98 was a wash with injuries, 98-99 he was battling injuries and shot 42%, 99-00 he shot 47%, but then 2000-01 was the year he had the micro fracture surgery which pretty much ended his career at that point at age 30. Hardaway was most likely a 45%-47% FG shooter if healthy without Shaq.
Shaq definitely helped his elite perimeter players (penny,kobe,wade) get open looks but I also think that Hardaway was a very talented player who wasn't just a product of Shaq, as the numbers above show. Injuries are the main thing that derailed his once promising career.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
He uses Win Shares to compare across eras. It does a better job than straight ORtg/DRtg, or per game/per minute stats.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Yeah, Penny was brought down by injuries, not by O'Neal. The big fella missed a bunch of games in 1996, and Penny kept them in the running, and they wound up winning 60 games. He was also a blast to watch. Plus he had Li'l Penny - "You can't guard me! The secret service couldn't guard me!"
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I think it's useful to point out that other than 2008-2009, there has never been a season in NBA history in which more than one player had a PER of above 30 (http://bit.ly/czR8bG). In 2008-2009, however, three players, LeBron James (31.7), Dwyane Wade (30.4), and Chris Paul (30.0) all accomplished this feat. Obviously, to have three players performing at such a high level in one season is unprecedented. The fact that they were aged 24, 27, and 23 (respectively), for an average age of 24.67, is downright silly.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Speaking of PER, isn't that based on the fact that the league average is always 15.0 for the year. What a year like 2008-09 proves then is that Lebron, Wade, and Paul were simply that farther above the average. It would be interesting to see how their stats would have held up in the late 80's when Jordan was constantly hitting above 30 PER.