Playoff Wins Above Expected
Posted by Neil Paine on March 21, 2010
This is basically a big data dump, but I thought I'd share the thought process & methodology involved. The premise is to find players whose teams won more postseason games than they were "supposed to" based on their regular season winning %'s and those of their playoff opponents (if this sounds familiar, you may have seen this Doug Drinen post, which Google found for me about halfway through the creation of this post)...
We don't have game-by-game W-L records for every player in NBA history, but we can estimate it by taking the percentage of team games played by a player and multiplying that by the team's overall W-L totals -- for instance, in the 1999 playoffs, Patrick Ewing went down after 11 of the Knicks' 20 games, so to estimate NY's record in Ewing's games we take their total WPct (.600) and multiply it by 11 to get 7 wins, then subtract that from 11 to get 4 losses and a 7-4 record (incidentally, NY was actually 8-3 in Ewing's games).
Now, we need to establish an "expected" W-L record and compare that to each player's actual record. To do this, we determine the pre-game probability of the player's team in every playoff game using the Log5 equation:
xWpct = ((Team A win%) * (1 - Team B Win%) * HCA)/((Team A win%) * (1 - Team B Win%) * HCA + (1 - Team A win%) * (Team B Win%) * (1 - HCA))
Where Team A is the home team, Team B is the road team, and HCA is 0.627 (the all-time WPct of NBA teams at home during the regular season). Add up the expected winning percentages for each team in a given postseason to find their expected wins, divide by their games to find their expected winning percentage in any given playoff game, and repeat the same procedure above, multiplying by the player's games played to estimate the team's expected W-L record in playoff games he actually played.
All that's left is to subtract expected wins from actual wins, and you've got Playoff Wins Above Expected for every player in NBA history (minimum 50 career playoff G):
Player | 1stYr | LstYr | G | pW | pL | xW | xL | ΔWPct | WAE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Robert Horry | 1993 | 2008 | 244 | 155 | 89 | 129 | 115 | 0.109 | 26.58 |
Scottie Pippen | 1988 | 2003 | 208 | 136 | 72 | 117 | 91 | 0.090 | 18.72 |
Michael Jordan | 1985 | 1998 | 179 | 119 | 60 | 101 | 78 | 0.098 | 17.55 |
Derek Fisher | 1997 | 2009 | 176 | 113 | 63 | 96 | 80 | 0.099 | 17.40 |
Kobe Bryant | 1997 | 2009 | 175 | 110 | 65 | 93 | 82 | 0.096 | 16.83 |
Horace Grant | 1988 | 2002 | 170 | 109 | 61 | 94 | 76 | 0.092 | 15.59 |
Dennis Rodman | 1987 | 1998 | 169 | 116 | 53 | 101 | 68 | 0.088 | 14.96 |
Bill Cartwright | 1981 | 1994 | 124 | 78 | 46 | 64 | 60 | 0.118 | 14.65 |
John Salley | 1987 | 2000 | 134 | 90 | 44 | 78 | 56 | 0.093 | 12.43 |
Mario Elie | 1991 | 2001 | 116 | 67 | 49 | 55 | 61 | 0.104 | 12.01 |
Shaquille O'Neal | 1994 | 2008 | 203 | 123 | 80 | 111 | 92 | 0.059 | 11.90 |
B.J. Armstrong | 1990 | 1999 | 105 | 71 | 35 | 59 | 46 | 0.113 | 11.88 |
John Paxson | 1985 | 1994 | 119 | 74 | 45 | 62 | 57 | 0.099 | 11.81 |
Isiah Thomas | 1984 | 1992 | 111 | 70 | 41 | 58 | 53 | 0.104 | 11.58 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1984 | 1992 | 113 | 71 | 42 | 59 | 54 | 0.102 | 11.57 |
Rick Fox | 1992 | 2004 | 111 | 72 | 39 | 61 | 50 | 0.102 | 11.33 |
Byron Scott | 1984 | 1997 | 183 | 116 | 67 | 106 | 77 | 0.058 | 10.57 |
Will Perdue | 1989 | 2001 | 108 | 72 | 36 | 61 | 47 | 0.097 | 10.51 |
Hakeem Olajuwon | 1985 | 2002 | 145 | 76 | 69 | 66 | 79 | 0.071 | 10.29 |
James Edwards | 1981 | 1996 | 111 | 69 | 42 | 58 | 53 | 0.091 | 10.11 |
Vinnie Johnson | 1980 | 1992 | 116 | 71 | 45 | 61 | 55 | 0.087 | 10.10 |
Slater Martin | 1950 | 1960 | 92 | 60 | 32 | 50 | 42 | 0.104 | 9.55 |
Joe Dumars | 1986 | 1999 | 112 | 68 | 44 | 58 | 54 | 0.085 | 9.52 |
Magic Johnson | 1980 | 1996 | 190 | 127 | 63 | 118 | 72 | 0.050 | 9.44 |
Steve Kerr | 1990 | 2003 | 128 | 86 | 42 | 76 | 52 | 0.073 | 9.38 |
Chris Childs | 1997 | 2002 | 73 | 39 | 34 | 30 | 43 | 0.127 | 9.26 |
Stacey King | 1990 | 1996 | 61 | 44 | 17 | 35 | 26 | 0.151 | 9.21 |
Charlie Ward | 1996 | 2004 | 72 | 39 | 33 | 30 | 42 | 0.128 | 9.19 |
Michael Cooper | 1980 | 1990 | 168 | 115 | 53 | 106 | 62 | 0.054 | 9.12 |
Scott Williams | 1991 | 2004 | 94 | 61 | 33 | 52 | 42 | 0.094 | 8.82 |
Bob McAdoo | 1974 | 1986 | 94 | 58 | 36 | 49 | 45 | 0.092 | 8.62 |
Derrick McKey | 1988 | 2002 | 142 | 77 | 65 | 68 | 74 | 0.060 | 8.52 |
Tim Duncan | 1998 | 2009 | 160 | 101 | 59 | 92 | 68 | 0.053 | 8.51 |
Manu Ginobili | 2003 | 2008 | 107 | 70 | 37 | 62 | 45 | 0.079 | 8.50 |
Rick Mahorn | 1982 | 1999 | 106 | 58 | 48 | 50 | 56 | 0.079 | 8.41 |
Kurt Rambis | 1982 | 1991 | 139 | 93 | 46 | 85 | 54 | 0.060 | 8.33 |
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar | 1970 | 1989 | 237 | 154 | 83 | 146 | 91 | 0.035 | 8.32 |
Lindsey Hunter | 1996 | 2009 | 147 | 86 | 61 | 78 | 69 | 0.055 | 8.08 |
Jamaal Wilkes | 1975 | 1984 | 113 | 70 | 43 | 62 | 51 | 0.070 | 7.93 |
Kenny Smith | 1991 | 1996 | 68 | 39 | 29 | 31 | 37 | 0.114 | 7.77 |
Brian Shaw | 1989 | 2003 | 127 | 76 | 51 | 69 | 58 | 0.060 | 7.65 |
Larry Johnson | 1993 | 2000 | 66 | 35 | 31 | 27 | 39 | 0.112 | 7.43 |
Rodney Rogers | 1994 | 2005 | 82 | 42 | 40 | 34 | 48 | 0.089 | 7.32 |
Ron Harper | 1988 | 2001 | 112 | 76 | 36 | 69 | 43 | 0.064 | 7.18 |
Larry Siegfried | 1964 | 1969 | 79 | 50 | 29 | 43 | 36 | 0.090 | 7.13 |
Brent Barry | 1997 | 2009 | 88 | 53 | 35 | 46 | 42 | 0.081 | 7.08 |
Bill Russell | 1957 | 1969 | 165 | 107 | 58 | 100 | 65 | 0.042 | 7.00 |
Sam Cassell | 1994 | 2008 | 136 | 75 | 61 | 68 | 68 | 0.051 | 6.88 |
Robert Reid | 1979 | 1991 | 79 | 40 | 40 | 33 | 46 | 0.087 | 6.84 |
Luc Longley | 1994 | 2000 | 87 | 58 | 29 | 51 | 36 | 0.078 | 6.82 |
Toni Kukoc | 1994 | 2006 | 99 | 62 | 37 | 56 | 43 | 0.067 | 6.60 |
Vern Mikkelsen | 1950 | 1959 | 85 | 52 | 33 | 45 | 40 | 0.078 | 6.60 |
George Mikan | 1950 | 1956 | 60 | 41 | 19 | 35 | 25 | 0.108 | 6.48 |
Sam Jones | 1958 | 1969 | 154 | 99 | 55 | 93 | 61 | 0.042 | 6.48 |
John Havlicek | 1963 | 1977 | 172 | 106 | 66 | 100 | 72 | 0.038 | 6.47 |
Elgin Baylor | 1959 | 1970 | 134 | 71 | 63 | 65 | 69 | 0.048 | 6.46 |
Julius Erving | 1977 | 1987 | 141 | 84 | 57 | 78 | 63 | 0.046 | 6.45 |
Allan Houston | 1996 | 2001 | 63 | 32 | 31 | 26 | 37 | 0.102 | 6.42 |
Devean George | 2000 | 2008 | 86 | 52 | 34 | 46 | 40 | 0.074 | 6.35 |
Mark Aguirre | 1984 | 1992 | 102 | 60 | 42 | 54 | 48 | 0.062 | 6.33 |
Tom Henderson | 1977 | 1982 | 80 | 42 | 38 | 36 | 44 | 0.077 | 6.19 |
Rik Smits | 1990 | 2000 | 104 | 56 | 48 | 50 | 54 | 0.058 | 6.07 |
Craig Hodges | 1985 | 1992 | 101 | 62 | 39 | 56 | 45 | 0.059 | 6.00 |
Maurice Cheeks | 1979 | 1993 | 133 | 74 | 59 | 68 | 65 | 0.045 | 5.97 |
Bill Bradley | 1968 | 1975 | 95 | 54 | 41 | 48 | 47 | 0.063 | 5.95 |
Jim Pollard | 1950 | 1955 | 62 | 42 | 20 | 36 | 26 | 0.095 | 5.93 |
Elden Campbell | 1991 | 2005 | 106 | 56 | 50 | 50 | 56 | 0.056 | 5.90 |
James Worthy | 1984 | 1993 | 143 | 95 | 48 | 89 | 54 | 0.041 | 5.90 |
Walt Frazier | 1968 | 1975 | 93 | 53 | 40 | 48 | 45 | 0.063 | 5.84 |
Mitch Kupchak | 1977 | 1986 | 68 | 43 | 25 | 37 | 31 | 0.086 | 5.83 |
Jeff Mullins | 1965 | 1976 | 83 | 41 | 42 | 35 | 48 | 0.070 | 5.82 |
Chuck Share | 1952 | 1960 | 54 | 29 | 25 | 23 | 31 | 0.108 | 5.81 |
Red Kerr | 1955 | 1966 | 76 | 36 | 40 | 30 | 46 | 0.076 | 5.80 |
Antonio Davis | 1994 | 2005 | 93 | 51 | 42 | 45 | 48 | 0.062 | 5.76 |
Patrick Ewing | 1988 | 2002 | 139 | 71 | 68 | 66 | 73 | 0.041 | 5.65 |
Trent Tucker | 1983 | 1993 | 66 | 33 | 33 | 27 | 39 | 0.084 | 5.55 |
Dave DeBusschere | 1963 | 1974 | 96 | 54 | 42 | 48 | 48 | 0.058 | 5.54 |
Luke Walton | 2004 | 2009 | 71 | 43 | 28 | 37 | 34 | 0.077 | 5.43 |
Charles Johnson | 1973 | 1979 | 85 | 49 | 36 | 44 | 41 | 0.063 | 5.37 |
LeBron James | 2006 | 2009 | 60 | 36 | 24 | 31 | 29 | 0.089 | 5.35 |
Anderson Varejao | 2006 | 2009 | 60 | 36 | 24 | 31 | 29 | 0.089 | 5.35 |
Darvin Ham | 2000 | 2005 | 54 | 33 | 21 | 28 | 26 | 0.096 | 5.20 |
Dwyane Wade | 2004 | 2009 | 61 | 35 | 26 | 30 | 31 | 0.085 | 5.20 |
Lucious Harris | 1998 | 2004 | 54 | 32 | 22 | 27 | 27 | 0.094 | 5.10 |
Kerry Kittles | 1998 | 2004 | 54 | 32 | 22 | 27 | 27 | 0.094 | 5.10 |
Kenyon Martin | 2002 | 2009 | 78 | 43 | 35 | 38 | 40 | 0.065 | 5.07 |
Udonis Haslem | 2004 | 2009 | 61 | 35 | 26 | 30 | 31 | 0.083 | 5.07 |
Bob Harrison | 1950 | 1958 | 59 | 37 | 22 | 32 | 27 | 0.086 | 5.05 |
Clint Richardson | 1980 | 1987 | 72 | 44 | 28 | 39 | 33 | 0.070 | 5.03 |
Norm Nixon | 1978 | 1983 | 58 | 36 | 22 | 31 | 27 | 0.087 | 5.03 |
Lamar Odom | 2004 | 2009 | 69 | 40 | 29 | 35 | 34 | 0.072 | 5.00 |
Earl Monroe | 1969 | 1978 | 82 | 39 | 43 | 34 | 48 | 0.061 | 5.00 |
AaRon Williams | 1998 | 2004 | 53 | 33 | 21 | 28 | 25 | 0.093 | 4.96 |
Jason Collins | 2002 | 2007 | 75 | 41 | 34 | 36 | 39 | 0.066 | 4.94 |
Richard Jefferson | 2002 | 2007 | 78 | 43 | 35 | 38 | 40 | 0.063 | 4.91 |
Zydrunas Ilgauskas | 1998 | 2009 | 64 | 37 | 27 | 32 | 32 | 0.076 | 4.89 |
Reggie Miller | 1990 | 2005 | 144 | 76 | 68 | 71 | 73 | 0.034 | 4.87 |
Tony Parker | 2002 | 2009 | 122 | 75 | 47 | 70 | 52 | 0.040 | 4.86 |
Moses Malone | 1977 | 1991 | 94 | 49 | 45 | 44 | 50 | 0.051 | 4.82 |
Bobby Jones | 1977 | 1986 | 125 | 73 | 52 | 68 | 57 | 0.038 | 4.80 |
Phil Jackson | 1968 | 1979 | 67 | 34 | 33 | 29 | 38 | 0.071 | 4.77 |
Andrew Toney | 1981 | 1987 | 72 | 44 | 28 | 39 | 33 | 0.065 | 4.68 |
Dale Davis | 1992 | 2007 | 137 | 73 | 64 | 68 | 69 | 0.034 | 4.65 |
Dolph Schayes | 1950 | 1963 | 97 | 50 | 47 | 45 | 52 | 0.048 | 4.64 |
Hot Rod Hundley | 1959 | 1963 | 53 | 27 | 26 | 22 | 31 | 0.087 | 4.61 |
Bailey Howell | 1960 | 1971 | 86 | 44 | 43 | 39 | 47 | 0.053 | 4.53 |
Clyde Drexler | 1984 | 1998 | 145 | 74 | 71 | 69 | 76 | 0.031 | 4.50 |
Sasha Vujacic | 2006 | 2009 | 55 | 34 | 21 | 29 | 26 | 0.081 | 4.43 |
Don Nelson | 1964 | 1976 | 150 | 88 | 62 | 84 | 66 | 0.029 | 4.35 |
Lionel Hollins | 1977 | 1985 | 77 | 45 | 32 | 41 | 36 | 0.056 | 4.33 |
Larry Costello | 1957 | 1967 | 52 | 24 | 28 | 20 | 32 | 0.083 | 4.32 |
Allen Leavell | 1980 | 1989 | 63 | 31 | 32 | 27 | 36 | 0.067 | 4.21 |
Jim Krebs | 1959 | 1964 | 62 | 31 | 31 | 26 | 36 | 0.068 | 4.20 |
Mike McGee | 1982 | 1990 | 68 | 44 | 24 | 40 | 28 | 0.061 | 4.13 |
Jud Buechler | 1995 | 2002 | 71 | 47 | 24 | 43 | 28 | 0.058 | 4.12 |
Willis Reed | 1967 | 1974 | 78 | 44 | 34 | 40 | 38 | 0.052 | 4.03 |
Clemon Johnson | 1979 | 1988 | 66 | 37 | 29 | 33 | 33 | 0.060 | 3.96 |
Al Bianchi | 1957 | 1966 | 56 | 25 | 31 | 21 | 35 | 0.069 | 3.87 |
Rick Barry | 1967 | 1980 | 74 | 40 | 34 | 36 | 38 | 0.052 | 3.86 |
Wally Walker | 1977 | 1982 | 64 | 37 | 27 | 34 | 30 | 0.059 | 3.78 |
Jack Coleman | 1950 | 1958 | 63 | 35 | 28 | 31 | 32 | 0.060 | 3.75 |
Jerry Lucas | 1964 | 1974 | 72 | 35 | 37 | 31 | 41 | 0.052 | 3.74 |
Eddie Johnson | 1984 | 1998 | 89 | 43 | 46 | 40 | 49 | 0.042 | 3.69 |
Latrell Sprewell | 1994 | 2004 | 62 | 33 | 29 | 29 | 33 | 0.058 | 3.62 |
Paul Westphal | 1973 | 1984 | 107 | 57 | 50 | 53 | 54 | 0.033 | 3.50 |
Chauncey Billups | 2001 | 2009 | 133 | 77 | 56 | 74 | 59 | 0.026 | 3.49 |
Bill Wennington | 1986 | 1998 | 70 | 43 | 27 | 40 | 30 | 0.049 | 3.44 |
Tom Sanders | 1961 | 1973 | 130 | 82 | 48 | 78 | 52 | 0.026 | 3.44 |
Greg Ballard | 1978 | 1987 | 65 | 31 | 34 | 27 | 38 | 0.053 | 3.43 |
Bruce Bowen | 2000 | 2009 | 135 | 81 | 54 | 78 | 57 | 0.025 | 3.34 |
Mike Dunleavy | 1977 | 1984 | 67 | 33 | 34 | 30 | 37 | 0.049 | 3.32 |
Rasheed Wallace | 1997 | 2009 | 153 | 83 | 70 | 80 | 73 | 0.021 | 3.22 |
Henry Bibby | 1973 | 1980 | 72 | 41 | 31 | 38 | 34 | 0.044 | 3.14 |
Stephen Jackson | 2003 | 2007 | 54 | 29 | 25 | 26 | 28 | 0.058 | 3.14 |
Ben Wallace | 2002 | 2009 | 130 | 76 | 54 | 73 | 57 | 0.024 | 3.14 |
Dick Barnett | 1960 | 1973 | 102 | 54 | 48 | 51 | 51 | 0.031 | 3.13 |
Sam Mitchell | 1993 | 2002 | 59 | 25 | 34 | 22 | 37 | 0.053 | 3.13 |
Chris Morris | 1992 | 1999 | 69 | 38 | 31 | 35 | 34 | 0.044 | 3.04 |
Earl Cureton | 1981 | 1994 | 54 | 31 | 23 | 28 | 26 | 0.055 | 2.99 |
Nate Thurmond | 1964 | 1977 | 81 | 36 | 45 | 33 | 48 | 0.037 | 2.99 |
Happy Hairston | 1965 | 1974 | 69 | 35 | 34 | 32 | 37 | 0.042 | 2.93 |
Dennis Awtrey | 1971 | 1979 | 61 | 31 | 30 | 28 | 33 | 0.047 | 2.89 |
Jerry West | 1961 | 1974 | 153 | 86 | 67 | 83 | 70 | 0.019 | 2.86 |
Jason Kidd | 1997 | 2009 | 115 | 56 | 59 | 53 | 62 | 0.025 | 2.85 |
John Starks | 1991 | 2001 | 96 | 50 | 46 | 47 | 49 | 0.029 | 2.83 |
Rudy LaRusso | 1960 | 1969 | 93 | 44 | 49 | 41 | 52 | 0.030 | 2.79 |
Gar Heard | 1973 | 1980 | 59 | 28 | 31 | 25 | 34 | 0.047 | 2.77 |
Mark Jackson | 1988 | 2004 | 131 | 66 | 65 | 63 | 68 | 0.021 | 2.75 |
Mehmet Okur | 2003 | 2009 | 70 | 39 | 31 | 36 | 34 | 0.039 | 2.72 |
Curtis Perry | 1972 | 1976 | 52 | 29 | 23 | 26 | 26 | 0.051 | 2.65 |
Calvin Murphy | 1975 | 1982 | 51 | 23 | 28 | 20 | 31 | 0.049 | 2.50 |
Keith Erickson | 1967 | 1976 | 87 | 45 | 42 | 42 | 45 | 0.028 | 2.48 |
Chris Mullin | 1987 | 2000 | 71 | 37 | 34 | 34 | 37 | 0.035 | 2.45 |
Clyde Lee | 1967 | 1976 | 51 | 21 | 30 | 18 | 33 | 0.047 | 2.38 |
Greg Foster | 1993 | 2001 | 67 | 39 | 28 | 37 | 30 | 0.035 | 2.36 |
Shandon Anderson | 1997 | 2006 | 74 | 45 | 29 | 42 | 32 | 0.031 | 2.32 |
John Johnson | 1977 | 1982 | 73 | 41 | 32 | 38 | 35 | 0.032 | 2.31 |
Billy Paultz | 1977 | 1985 | 70 | 32 | 38 | 30 | 40 | 0.033 | 2.30 |
Maurice Lucas | 1977 | 1988 | 82 | 43 | 39 | 40 | 42 | 0.028 | 2.29 |
Jacque Vaughn | 1998 | 2009 | 75 | 42 | 33 | 40 | 35 | 0.029 | 2.18 |
Damon Jones | 2002 | 2008 | 59 | 32 | 27 | 30 | 29 | 0.036 | 2.12 |
Bob Dandridge | 1970 | 1979 | 98 | 59 | 39 | 57 | 41 | 0.021 | 2.07 |
Rashard Lewis | 2000 | 2009 | 50 | 26 | 24 | 24 | 26 | 0.041 | 2.04 |
Steve Mix | 1976 | 1983 | 89 | 51 | 38 | 49 | 40 | 0.023 | 2.03 |
Marques Johnson | 1978 | 1984 | 54 | 26 | 28 | 24 | 30 | 0.037 | 2.03 |
Tayshaun Prince | 2003 | 2009 | 118 | 68 | 50 | 66 | 52 | 0.017 | 2.01 |
Sam Vincent | 1986 | 1989 | 52 | 30 | 22 | 28 | 24 | 0.038 | 1.96 |
Adrian Dantley | 1978 | 1991 | 73 | 37 | 36 | 35 | 38 | 0.026 | 1.94 |
Antoine Walker | 2002 | 2007 | 64 | 33 | 31 | 31 | 33 | 0.030 | 1.92 |
Richard Hamilton | 2003 | 2009 | 120 | 69 | 51 | 67 | 53 | 0.015 | 1.83 |
Tom Hawkins | 1960 | 1969 | 96 | 49 | 47 | 47 | 49 | 0.019 | 1.80 |
Mike Bibby | 2002 | 2009 | 69 | 34 | 35 | 32 | 37 | 0.026 | 1.78 |
Frank Selvy | 1959 | 1964 | 52 | 25 | 27 | 23 | 29 | 0.033 | 1.73 |
Paul Seymour | 1950 | 1958 | 66 | 36 | 31 | 34 | 32 | 0.026 | 1.71 |
Darryl Dawkins | 1977 | 1986 | 109 | 58 | 51 | 57 | 52 | 0.016 | 1.68 |
Chris Dudley | 1988 | 2002 | 59 | 24 | 35 | 22 | 37 | 0.028 | 1.64 |
Vlade Divac | 1990 | 2004 | 121 | 60 | 61 | 58 | 63 | 0.013 | 1.57 |
Malik Rose | 1997 | 2004 | 82 | 49 | 33 | 48 | 34 | 0.018 | 1.50 |
Jalen Rose | 1995 | 2007 | 59 | 33 | 26 | 31 | 28 | 0.025 | 1.47 |
Herb Williams | 1987 | 1999 | 57 | 29 | 28 | 28 | 29 | 0.025 | 1.41 |
Bob Lanier | 1974 | 1984 | 67 | 30 | 37 | 29 | 38 | 0.021 | 1.40 |
Charles Oakley | 1986 | 2001 | 144 | 68 | 76 | 67 | 77 | 0.008 | 1.23 |
Arvydas Sabonis | 1996 | 2003 | 51 | 24 | 27 | 22 | 29 | 0.023 | 1.17 |
Greg Kite | 1984 | 1995 | 61 | 40 | 21 | 38 | 23 | 0.019 | 1.16 |
Kevin Grevey | 1976 | 1985 | 70 | 35 | 35 | 34 | 36 | 0.016 | 1.13 |
Anthony Johnson | 1999 | 2009 | 99 | 54 | 45 | 53 | 46 | 0.011 | 1.12 |
Kurt Thomas | 1996 | 2009 | 82 | 40 | 43 | 38 | 44 | 0.013 | 1.08 |
Al Attles | 1961 | 1971 | 62 | 27 | 35 | 26 | 36 | 0.017 | 1.07 |
Scot Pollard | 1999 | 2007 | 60 | 30 | 30 | 29 | 31 | 0.018 | 1.04 |
Cliff Hagan | 1957 | 1966 | 90 | 47 | 43 | 46 | 44 | 0.011 | 1.01 |
Brian Grant | 1996 | 2006 | 58 | 28 | 31 | 26 | 32 | 0.017 | 1.01 |
Danny Young | 1987 | 1992 | 53 | 26 | 27 | 25 | 28 | 0.019 | 1.00 |
Harry Gallatin | 1950 | 1958 | 58 | 29 | 29 | 28 | 30 | 0.016 | 0.96 |
Gary Payton | 1991 | 2007 | 154 | 80 | 74 | 79 | 75 | 0.006 | 0.94 |
Jason Williams | 1999 | 2007 | 53 | 23 | 30 | 22 | 31 | 0.017 | 0.88 |
Damon Stoudamire | 1998 | 2008 | 53 | 25 | 28 | 24 | 29 | 0.016 | 0.85 |
Eric Snow | 1996 | 2007 | 103 | 54 | 49 | 53 | 50 | 0.008 | 0.85 |
Corliss Williamson | 1996 | 2006 | 66 | 33 | 33 | 32 | 34 | 0.013 | 0.84 |
Jim King | 1964 | 1973 | 73 | 32 | 41 | 32 | 41 | 0.011 | 0.80 |
Rafer Alston | 2000 | 2009 | 56 | 27 | 29 | 26 | 30 | 0.014 | 0.79 |
Xavier McDaniel | 1987 | 1995 | 51 | 21 | 30 | 20 | 31 | 0.015 | 0.77 |
Paul Silas | 1965 | 1980 | 163 | 91 | 72 | 90 | 73 | 0.005 | 0.75 |
Marcus Camby | 1999 | 2008 | 64 | 27 | 37 | 26 | 38 | 0.012 | 0.75 |
Jim McMillian | 1971 | 1978 | 72 | 37 | 35 | 36 | 36 | 0.009 | 0.65 |
Chris Webber | 1994 | 2007 | 80 | 39 | 41 | 38 | 42 | 0.008 | 0.60 |
Caldwell Jones | 1977 | 1990 | 119 | 63 | 56 | 62 | 57 | 0.005 | 0.56 |
Frank Ramsey | 1955 | 1964 | 98 | 63 | 35 | 63 | 35 | 0.005 | 0.51 |
Howard Eisley | 1996 | 2001 | 88 | 49 | 39 | 48 | 40 | 0.004 | 0.33 |
Doug Christie | 1993 | 2004 | 58 | 30 | 28 | 30 | 28 | 0.005 | 0.29 |
Mychal Thompson | 1979 | 1991 | 104 | 62 | 42 | 61 | 43 | 0.002 | 0.26 |
K.C. Jones | 1959 | 1967 | 105 | 68 | 37 | 68 | 37 | 0.002 | 0.17 |
Jeff Malone | 1984 | 1993 | 51 | 21 | 30 | 21 | 30 | 0.003 | 0.16 |
Cliff Levingston | 1984 | 1995 | 82 | 48 | 34 | 48 | 34 | 0.002 | 0.16 |
Peja Stojakovic | 1999 | 2009 | 76 | 37 | 39 | 37 | 39 | 0.001 | 0.09 |
Derek Harper | 1984 | 1999 | 97 | 47 | 50 | 46 | 51 | 0.001 | 0.09 |
Tony Battie | 2002 | 2009 | 51 | 24 | 27 | 24 | 27 | 0.001 | 0.07 |
Jim Loscutoff | 1956 | 1964 | 58 | 38 | 20 | 38 | 20 | 0.000 | 0.04 |
Pau Gasol | 2004 | 2009 | 56 | 30 | 26 | 30 | 26 | 0.000 | 0.03 |
Wilt Chamberlain | 1960 | 1973 | 160 | 88 | 72 | 88 | 72 | 0.000 | 0.01 |
David Wesley | 1994 | 2005 | 55 | 24 | 31 | 24 | 31 | -0.001 | -0.02 |
Travis Best | 1996 | 2005 | 63 | 34 | 29 | 34 | 29 | -0.001 | -0.04 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1989 | 2000 | 140 | 76 | 64 | 76 | 64 | 0.000 | -0.06 |
Nathaniel Clifton | 1951 | 1958 | 53 | 26 | 27 | 26 | 27 | -0.002 | -0.09 |
Chris Ford | 1974 | 1982 | 58 | 32 | 26 | 32 | 26 | -0.002 | -0.09 |
Mel Counts | 1965 | 1974 | 85 | 48 | 37 | 49 | 36 | -0.002 | -0.16 |
Alvan Adams | 1976 | 1985 | 78 | 35 | 43 | 35 | 43 | -0.003 | -0.25 |
Jack Marin | 1969 | 1977 | 51 | 19 | 32 | 19 | 32 | -0.005 | -0.26 |
George Johnson | 1973 | 1985 | 59 | 30 | 29 | 31 | 28 | -0.005 | -0.28 |
Greg Anthony | 1992 | 2001 | 102 | 55 | 47 | 55 | 47 | -0.003 | -0.29 |
Hedo Turkoglu | 2001 | 2009 | 82 | 43 | 39 | 43 | 39 | -0.004 | -0.32 |
Dick McGuire | 1950 | 1960 | 63 | 30 | 33 | 30 | 33 | -0.006 | -0.35 |
Jon McGlocklin | 1966 | 1976 | 55 | 34 | 21 | 34 | 21 | -0.006 | -0.35 |
David Robinson | 1990 | 2003 | 123 | 71 | 52 | 71 | 52 | -0.003 | -0.39 |
Bob Pettit | 1956 | 1965 | 88 | 45 | 43 | 46 | 42 | -0.006 | -0.53 |
Tom Heinsohn | 1957 | 1965 | 104 | 69 | 35 | 70 | 34 | -0.005 | -0.54 |
Gus Williams | 1976 | 1986 | 99 | 51 | 48 | 52 | 47 | -0.006 | -0.60 |
Gail Goodrich | 1966 | 1974 | 80 | 42 | 38 | 43 | 37 | -0.008 | -0.61 |
Fred Brown | 1975 | 1984 | 83 | 43 | 40 | 43 | 40 | -0.008 | -0.67 |
George Lynch | 1995 | 2004 | 62 | 28 | 34 | 28 | 34 | -0.011 | -0.68 |
Harvey Catchings | 1976 | 1984 | 53 | 24 | 29 | 25 | 28 | -0.014 | -0.73 |
Sedale Threatt | 1984 | 1997 | 70 | 30 | 40 | 31 | 39 | -0.012 | -0.81 |
Bryon Russell | 1994 | 2005 | 105 | 56 | 49 | 57 | 48 | -0.008 | -0.89 |
Joe Smith | 1999 | 2009 | 52 | 22 | 30 | 23 | 29 | -0.017 | -0.90 |
Keith Van Horn | 1998 | 2006 | 57 | 28 | 29 | 29 | 28 | -0.016 | -0.91 |
Wayne Embry | 1962 | 1968 | 56 | 26 | 30 | 27 | 29 | -0.016 | -0.92 |
Clifford Ray | 1972 | 1977 | 60 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 29 | -0.016 | -0.94 |
Sean Elliott | 1990 | 2001 | 85 | 48 | 37 | 49 | 36 | -0.011 | -0.95 |
Rickey Green | 1984 | 1991 | 55 | 22 | 33 | 23 | 32 | -0.017 | -0.96 |
Nate McMillan | 1987 | 1998 | 98 | 47 | 51 | 48 | 50 | -0.010 | -0.96 |
Rick Robey | 1980 | 1984 | 53 | 31 | 22 | 32 | 21 | -0.018 | -0.96 |
Hal Greer | 1959 | 1971 | 92 | 44 | 48 | 45 | 47 | -0.011 | -0.99 |
Zelmo Beaty | 1963 | 1969 | 63 | 31 | 32 | 32 | 31 | -0.017 | -1.07 |
Paul Mokeski | 1983 | 1991 | 69 | 32 | 37 | 33 | 36 | -0.016 | -1.08 |
A.C. Green | 1986 | 2001 | 153 | 93 | 60 | 94 | 59 | -0.007 | -1.13 |
Wally Szczerbiak | 2000 | 2009 | 54 | 26 | 28 | 27 | 27 | -0.022 | -1.18 |
David Benoit | 1992 | 2001 | 57 | 29 | 28 | 30 | 27 | -0.021 | -1.18 |
Antonio McDyess | 1998 | 2009 | 84 | 46 | 38 | 47 | 37 | -0.015 | -1.21 |
Kevin Johnson | 1989 | 2000 | 105 | 53 | 52 | 55 | 50 | -0.012 | -1.22 |
Sidney Moncrief | 1980 | 1991 | 93 | 42 | 52 | 43 | 50 | -0.013 | -1.23 |
Oscar Robertson | 1962 | 1974 | 86 | 46 | 40 | 47 | 39 | -0.015 | -1.26 |
Anthony Peeler | 1995 | 2005 | 57 | 22 | 35 | 23 | 34 | -0.022 | -1.26 |
Greg Ostertag | 1996 | 2005 | 89 | 46 | 43 | 48 | 41 | -0.015 | -1.29 |
Tom Chambers | 1984 | 1995 | 108 | 55 | 54 | 56 | 52 | -0.013 | -1.39 |
Jo Jo White | 1972 | 1977 | 80 | 47 | 33 | 48 | 32 | -0.017 | -1.40 |
Jack Sikma | 1978 | 1991 | 102 | 49 | 53 | 50 | 52 | -0.014 | -1.40 |
Rolando Blackman | 1984 | 1994 | 69 | 33 | 36 | 35 | 34 | -0.022 | -1.49 |
Lonnie Shelton | 1978 | 1985 | 52 | 25 | 27 | 27 | 25 | -0.029 | -1.51 |
Alton Lister | 1982 | 1998 | 87 | 39 | 48 | 40 | 47 | -0.018 | -1.53 |
Jermaine O'Neal | 1997 | 2009 | 76 | 36 | 40 | 38 | 38 | -0.020 | -1.53 |
Alonzo Mourning | 1993 | 2007 | 95 | 48 | 47 | 50 | 45 | -0.016 | -1.54 |
Willie Anderson | 1990 | 1997 | 52 | 26 | 26 | 27 | 25 | -0.030 | -1.56 |
James Jones | 2005 | 2009 | 51 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 24 | -0.033 | -1.71 |
Dale Ellis | 1984 | 1998 | 73 | 30 | 43 | 31 | 42 | -0.024 | -1.77 |
Gerald Wilkins | 1988 | 1997 | 55 | 21 | 34 | 23 | 32 | -0.033 | -1.79 |
Mike Sanders | 1983 | 1993 | 67 | 29 | 38 | 31 | 36 | -0.027 | -1.82 |
Leroy Ellis | 1963 | 1976 | 64 | 32 | 32 | 34 | 30 | -0.029 | -1.83 |
Avery Johnson | 1989 | 2001 | 90 | 49 | 41 | 51 | 39 | -0.021 | -1.85 |
Tim Thomas | 1999 | 2009 | 55 | 25 | 30 | 27 | 28 | -0.034 | -1.88 |
Michael Finley | 2001 | 2009 | 111 | 58 | 53 | 60 | 51 | -0.017 | -1.90 |
Cazzie Russell | 1967 | 1977 | 72 | 34 | 38 | 36 | 36 | -0.026 | -1.90 |
Bill Sharman | 1952 | 1961 | 78 | 46 | 32 | 48 | 30 | -0.025 | -1.92 |
Antoine Carr | 1987 | 1999 | 107 | 56 | 51 | 58 | 49 | -0.018 | -1.97 |
Otis Thorpe | 1986 | 2001 | 78 | 36 | 42 | 38 | 40 | -0.025 | -1.98 |
Mahdi Abdul-Rahman | 1965 | 1973 | 58 | 24 | 34 | 26 | 32 | -0.035 | -2.05 |
David Wingate | 1987 | 1998 | 59 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 28 | -0.035 | -2.07 |
Dave Cowens | 1972 | 1980 | 89 | 52 | 37 | 54 | 35 | -0.023 | -2.10 |
Shawn Marion | 2000 | 2007 | 65 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 31 | -0.033 | -2.14 |
Lenny Wilkens | 1961 | 1968 | 64 | 31 | 33 | 33 | 31 | -0.034 | -2.17 |
Bill Bridges | 1963 | 1975 | 113 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 55 | -0.019 | -2.20 |
Charles Smith | 1992 | 1996 | 66 | 36 | 30 | 38 | 28 | -0.034 | -2.22 |
Frank Johnson | 1982 | 1994 | 54 | 24 | 30 | 26 | 28 | -0.042 | -2.26 |
Jamal Mashburn | 1997 | 2003 | 52 | 26 | 26 | 28 | 24 | -0.044 | -2.29 |
Arnie Risen | 1950 | 1958 | 57 | 30 | 27 | 33 | 24 | -0.041 | -2.30 |
Kevin Willis | 1986 | 2004 | 98 | 48 | 50 | 50 | 48 | -0.023 | -2.31 |
Adam Keefe | 1993 | 1999 | 64 | 34 | 30 | 36 | 28 | -0.037 | -2.34 |
Anthony Mason | 1992 | 2003 | 96 | 46 | 50 | 48 | 48 | -0.024 | -2.34 |
Mike Evans | 1980 | 1988 | 58 | 25 | 33 | 28 | 30 | -0.040 | -2.35 |
Nick Van Exel | 1995 | 2006 | 76 | 37 | 39 | 40 | 36 | -0.031 | -2.37 |
Darrell Armstrong | 1997 | 2006 | 51 | 22 | 29 | 24 | 27 | -0.048 | -2.43 |
Kiki Vandeweghe | 1982 | 1993 | 68 | 26 | 42 | 29 | 39 | -0.036 | -2.43 |
Quinn Buckner | 1978 | 1985 | 68 | 37 | 31 | 40 | 28 | -0.036 | -2.43 |
Cedric Ceballos | 1991 | 2001 | 59 | 27 | 32 | 30 | 29 | -0.042 | -2.45 |
Luke Jackson | 1965 | 1971 | 56 | 29 | 27 | 31 | 25 | -0.044 | -2.46 |
Elvin Hayes | 1969 | 1982 | 96 | 45 | 51 | 47 | 49 | -0.026 | -2.47 |
Erick Dampier | 2005 | 2009 | 52 | 25 | 27 | 28 | 24 | -0.048 | -2.48 |
Larry Foust | 1951 | 1961 | 73 | 30 | 43 | 33 | 40 | -0.035 | -2.54 |
Dave Corzine | 1979 | 1991 | 68 | 27 | 41 | 30 | 38 | -0.037 | -2.55 |
Antonio Daniels | 1999 | 2009 | 80 | 39 | 41 | 41 | 39 | -0.032 | -2.55 |
Steve Kuberski | 1972 | 1976 | 50 | 29 | 21 | 32 | 18 | -0.051 | -2.56 |
Larry Nance | 1982 | 1993 | 68 | 30 | 38 | 33 | 35 | -0.038 | -2.57 |
Michael Cage | 1989 | 1996 | 53 | 22 | 31 | 25 | 28 | -0.049 | -2.57 |
John Battle | 1986 | 1995 | 55 | 25 | 30 | 28 | 27 | -0.047 | -2.58 |
Truck Robinson | 1975 | 1984 | 74 | 34 | 40 | 37 | 37 | -0.035 | -2.59 |
Sam Perkins | 1985 | 2001 | 167 | 88 | 79 | 90 | 77 | -0.016 | -2.61 |
Austin Croshere | 1999 | 2007 | 68 | 33 | 35 | 36 | 32 | -0.039 | -2.66 |
M.L. Carr | 1977 | 1985 | 67 | 41 | 26 | 43 | 24 | -0.040 | -2.68 |
Jon Barry | 1997 | 2005 | 62 | 26 | 36 | 28 | 34 | -0.044 | -2.71 |
James Donaldson | 1982 | 1995 | 51 | 22 | 29 | 25 | 26 | -0.054 | -2.74 |
Dell Curry | 1987 | 2002 | 51 | 18 | 33 | 21 | 30 | -0.054 | -2.77 |
Dominique Wilkins | 1983 | 1999 | 56 | 22 | 34 | 25 | 31 | -0.049 | -2.77 |
Jason Terry | 2005 | 2009 | 56 | 27 | 29 | 30 | 26 | -0.050 | -2.78 |
Aaron McKie | 1995 | 2006 | 75 | 33 | 42 | 35 | 40 | -0.037 | -2.82 |
Randy Breuer | 1984 | 1993 | 60 | 27 | 33 | 29 | 31 | -0.047 | -2.82 |
Charles Barkley | 1985 | 1999 | 123 | 62 | 61 | 64 | 59 | -0.023 | -2.86 |
Mark Eaton | 1984 | 1993 | 74 | 33 | 41 | 36 | 38 | -0.040 | -2.96 |
Andy Phillip | 1950 | 1958 | 60 | 27 | 33 | 30 | 30 | -0.050 | -3.00 |
Dennis Johnson | 1978 | 1990 | 180 | 104 | 76 | 107 | 73 | -0.017 | -3.02 |
Vinny Del Negro | 1993 | 2001 | 54 | 26 | 28 | 29 | 25 | -0.056 | -3.02 |
Karl Malone | 1986 | 2004 | 193 | 97 | 96 | 100 | 93 | -0.016 | -3.02 |
Alvin Scott | 1978 | 1985 | 61 | 26 | 35 | 29 | 32 | -0.050 | -3.03 |
Shawn Kemp | 1991 | 2003 | 88 | 41 | 47 | 44 | 44 | -0.035 | -3.06 |
Scott Wedman | 1975 | 1986 | 85 | 47 | 38 | 50 | 35 | -0.036 | -3.06 |
Ervin Johnson | 1994 | 2006 | 77 | 38 | 39 | 41 | 36 | -0.040 | -3.07 |
Glen Rice | 1992 | 2001 | 55 | 26 | 29 | 29 | 26 | -0.057 | -3.14 |
Vincent Askew | 1991 | 1996 | 50 | 25 | 25 | 28 | 22 | -0.064 | -3.21 |
Darrall Imhoff | 1963 | 1970 | 54 | 24 | 30 | 27 | 27 | -0.060 | -3.22 |
Wayne Cooper | 1983 | 1992 | 74 | 35 | 39 | 38 | 36 | -0.046 | -3.37 |
Wes Unseld | 1969 | 1980 | 119 | 53 | 66 | 56 | 63 | -0.029 | -3.41 |
Paul Pressey | 1983 | 1992 | 75 | 33 | 42 | 36 | 39 | -0.046 | -3.43 |
George Gervin | 1977 | 1986 | 59 | 25 | 34 | 28 | 31 | -0.058 | -3.44 |
Bob Weiss | 1967 | 1977 | 53 | 20 | 33 | 23 | 30 | -0.065 | -3.46 |
Lou Hudson | 1967 | 1979 | 61 | 24 | 37 | 28 | 33 | -0.057 | -3.46 |
Alex English | 1978 | 1990 | 68 | 28 | 40 | 32 | 36 | -0.051 | -3.47 |
Tony Delk | 1997 | 2006 | 53 | 24 | 29 | 27 | 26 | -0.066 | -3.50 |
Dan Issel | 1977 | 1985 | 53 | 23 | 30 | 27 | 26 | -0.067 | -3.54 |
James Posey | 2004 | 2009 | 65 | 32 | 33 | 36 | 29 | -0.055 | -3.54 |
Mark West | 1984 | 1999 | 95 | 46 | 49 | 50 | 45 | -0.038 | -3.57 |
Rasho Nesterovic | 1999 | 2008 | 64 | 29 | 35 | 32 | 32 | -0.056 | -3.59 |
Doc Rivers | 1984 | 1996 | 81 | 41 | 40 | 44 | 37 | -0.044 | -3.60 |
Dikembe Mutombo | 1994 | 2009 | 101 | 44 | 57 | 48 | 53 | -0.036 | -3.67 |
Buck Williams | 1982 | 1998 | 108 | 50 | 58 | 54 | 54 | -0.035 | -3.73 |
Hot Rod Williams | 1988 | 1998 | 57 | 23 | 34 | 27 | 30 | -0.066 | -3.79 |
Kevin Duckworth | 1987 | 1993 | 67 | 34 | 33 | 37 | 30 | -0.057 | -3.82 |
Gerald Henderson | 1980 | 1991 | 88 | 51 | 37 | 55 | 33 | -0.043 | -3.83 |
Josh Howard | 2004 | 2009 | 62 | 29 | 33 | 33 | 29 | -0.063 | -3.91 |
Hersey Hawkins | 1989 | 2001 | 74 | 36 | 38 | 40 | 34 | -0.053 | -3.95 |
Steve Smith | 1992 | 2005 | 90 | 38 | 52 | 42 | 48 | -0.044 | -4.00 |
Jim Paxson | 1980 | 1990 | 53 | 22 | 31 | 26 | 27 | -0.076 | -4.03 |
Eddie Jones | 1995 | 2008 | 81 | 36 | 45 | 40 | 41 | -0.050 | -4.04 |
Joe Kleine | 1986 | 1999 | 50 | 22 | 28 | 26 | 24 | -0.081 | -4.04 |
Craig Ehlo | 1985 | 1996 | 76 | 34 | 42 | 38 | 38 | -0.054 | -4.09 |
Don Chaney | 1969 | 1977 | 70 | 38 | 32 | 42 | 28 | -0.059 | -4.12 |
Chuck Person | 1987 | 2000 | 51 | 22 | 29 | 26 | 25 | -0.081 | -4.13 |
John Stockton | 1985 | 2003 | 182 | 89 | 93 | 93 | 89 | -0.023 | -4.15 |
Allen Iverson | 1999 | 2008 | 71 | 29 | 42 | 34 | 37 | -0.060 | -4.26 |
Archie Clark | 1967 | 1976 | 71 | 29 | 42 | 33 | 38 | -0.061 | -4.35 |
Ray Allen | 1999 | 2009 | 77 | 41 | 36 | 45 | 32 | -0.057 | -4.36 |
Jerome Kersey | 1985 | 2000 | 126 | 63 | 63 | 68 | 58 | -0.036 | -4.46 |
Mark Bryant | 1990 | 2003 | 79 | 36 | 43 | 40 | 39 | -0.057 | -4.50 |
Clyde Lovellette | 1954 | 1964 | 69 | 35 | 34 | 40 | 29 | -0.066 | -4.53 |
Matt Guokas | 1967 | 1975 | 60 | 31 | 29 | 36 | 24 | -0.076 | -4.55 |
Jon Koncak | 1986 | 1996 | 53 | 24 | 29 | 28 | 25 | -0.086 | -4.56 |
Mike Riordan | 1969 | 1977 | 84 | 42 | 42 | 47 | 37 | -0.055 | -4.61 |
P.J. Brown | 1994 | 2008 | 106 | 54 | 52 | 59 | 47 | -0.044 | -4.62 |
Thurl Bailey | 1984 | 1999 | 69 | 29 | 40 | 34 | 35 | -0.067 | -4.64 |
Bob Cousy | 1951 | 1963 | 109 | 63 | 46 | 68 | 41 | -0.043 | -4.66 |
Bobby Jackson | 1999 | 2008 | 58 | 25 | 33 | 29 | 29 | -0.081 | -4.69 |
Tyrone Corbin | 1986 | 2000 | 81 | 35 | 46 | 40 | 41 | -0.059 | -4.81 |
Cedric Maxwell | 1980 | 1988 | 102 | 59 | 43 | 64 | 38 | -0.047 | -4.84 |
Stacey Augmon | 1993 | 2004 | 77 | 31 | 46 | 36 | 41 | -0.063 | -4.89 |
Tyrone Hill | 1991 | 2003 | 74 | 31 | 43 | 36 | 38 | -0.066 | -4.90 |
T.R. Dunn | 1978 | 1990 | 76 | 32 | 44 | 37 | 39 | -0.064 | -4.90 |
Ricky Pierce | 1985 | 1997 | 97 | 42 | 56 | 46 | 51 | -0.051 | -4.98 |
Detlef Schrempf | 1986 | 2001 | 114 | 53 | 61 | 58 | 56 | -0.045 | -5.09 |
Jerry Sloan | 1966 | 1975 | 52 | 17 | 35 | 22 | 30 | -0.098 | -5.11 |
Danny Schayes | 1983 | 1999 | 69 | 28 | 41 | 33 | 36 | -0.075 | -5.14 |
Fred Roberts | 1985 | 1996 | 67 | 29 | 38 | 34 | 33 | -0.079 | -5.27 |
Dirk Nowitzki | 2001 | 2009 | 97 | 46 | 52 | 51 | 46 | -0.055 | -5.36 |
Raja Bell | 2001 | 2008 | 68 | 33 | 35 | 38 | 30 | -0.079 | -5.37 |
Anfernee Hardaway | 1994 | 2004 | 64 | 27 | 37 | 32 | 32 | -0.085 | -5.41 |
Walter Davis | 1978 | 1991 | 78 | 34 | 44 | 40 | 38 | -0.071 | -5.52 |
Bill Hanzlik | 1982 | 1990 | 62 | 24 | 38 | 30 | 32 | -0.091 | -5.62 |
Phil Chenier | 1972 | 1979 | 60 | 25 | 35 | 31 | 29 | -0.097 | -5.82 |
Terry Cummings | 1985 | 1998 | 110 | 51 | 59 | 57 | 53 | -0.053 | -5.85 |
Paul Pierce | 2002 | 2009 | 77 | 39 | 38 | 45 | 32 | -0.079 | -6.11 |
Wali Jones | 1965 | 1976 | 70 | 34 | 36 | 40 | 30 | -0.087 | -6.11 |
Danny Ainge | 1982 | 1995 | 193 | 116 | 77 | 122 | 71 | -0.032 | -6.12 |
Rod Strickland | 1989 | 2003 | 52 | 18 | 34 | 24 | 28 | -0.118 | -6.14 |
Eduardo Najera | 2001 | 2008 | 54 | 20 | 35 | 26 | 28 | -0.114 | -6.16 |
Danny Ferry | 1992 | 2003 | 67 | 31 | 36 | 37 | 30 | -0.092 | -6.17 |
Chet Walker | 1963 | 1975 | 105 | 48 | 57 | 54 | 51 | -0.060 | -6.28 |
Larry Bird | 1980 | 1992 | 164 | 99 | 65 | 105 | 59 | -0.039 | -6.33 |
Tim Hardaway | 1991 | 2003 | 56 | 23 | 33 | 29 | 27 | -0.115 | -6.45 |
Tree Rollins | 1978 | 1995 | 93 | 39 | 54 | 46 | 47 | -0.070 | -6.49 |
Jerry Stackhouse | 1999 | 2008 | 64 | 28 | 36 | 35 | 29 | -0.102 | -6.50 |
Steve Nash | 1997 | 2008 | 102 | 48 | 54 | 54 | 48 | -0.066 | -6.76 |
Kevin Garnett | 1997 | 2008 | 73 | 33 | 40 | 40 | 33 | -0.093 | -6.77 |
Mookie Blaylock | 1992 | 1999 | 54 | 18 | 36 | 25 | 29 | -0.132 | -7.15 |
Kevin McHale | 1981 | 1993 | 169 | 99 | 70 | 106 | 63 | -0.043 | -7.28 |
Eddie House | 2001 | 2009 | 59 | 30 | 29 | 37 | 22 | -0.125 | -7.36 |
Dan Majerle | 1989 | 2001 | 123 | 62 | 61 | 70 | 53 | -0.061 | -7.51 |
Robert Parish | 1977 | 1997 | 184 | 106 | 78 | 114 | 70 | -0.041 | -7.53 |
Clifford Robinson | 1990 | 2007 | 141 | 63 | 78 | 72 | 69 | -0.063 | -8.88 |
Terry Porter | 1986 | 2002 | 124 | 55 | 69 | 66 | 58 | -0.086 | -10.60 |
They call him Big Shot Bob (er, sorry, "Rob") for a reason:
Year | Age | Team | G | pW | pL | xW | xL | WAE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1993 | 22 | HOU | 12 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 5 | -0.79 |
1994 | 23 | HOU | 23 | 15 | 8 | 13 | 10 | 1.98 |
1995 | 24 | HOU | 22 | 15 | 7 | 7 | 15 | 7.67 |
1996 | 25 | HOU | 8 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 0.06 |
1997 | 26 | LAL | 9 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 5 | -0.15 |
1998 | 27 | LAL | 13 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 6 | -0.05 |
1999 | 28 | LAL | 8 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 5 | -0.49 |
2000 | 29 | LAL | 23 | 15 | 8 | 16 | 7 | -1.09 |
2001 | 30 | LAL | 16 | 15 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 6.83 |
2002 | 31 | LAL | 19 | 15 | 4 | 10 | 9 | 5.03 |
2003 | 32 | LAL | 12 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 0.84 |
2004 | 33 | SAS | 10 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 0.57 |
2005 | 34 | SAS | 23 | 16 | 7 | 13 | 10 | 2.97 |
2006 | 35 | SAS | 13 | 7 | 6 | 8 | 5 | -1.32 |
2007 | 36 | SAS | 18 | 14 | 4 | 10 | 8 | 3.96 |
2008 | 37 | SAS | 15 | 8 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 0.55 |
Meanwhile, what's the deal with Robert Parish?
Year | Age | Team | G | pW | pL | xW | xL | WAE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1977 | 23 | GSW | 10 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 6 | 0.51 |
1981 | 27 | BOS | 17 | 12 | 5 | 11 | 6 | 1.03 |
1982 | 28 | BOS | 12 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 4 | -0.93 |
1983 | 29 | BOS | 7 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 3 | -2.32 |
1984 | 30 | BOS | 23 | 15 | 8 | 16 | 7 | -0.87 |
1985 | 31 | BOS | 21 | 13 | 8 | 14 | 7 | -0.53 |
1986 | 32 | BOS | 18 | 15 | 3 | 13 | 5 | 1.65 |
1987 | 33 | BOS | 21 | 12 | 9 | 12 | 9 | -0.34 |
1988 | 34 | BOS | 17 | 9 | 8 | 10 | 7 | -1.32 |
1989 | 35 | BOS | 3 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 2 | -0.66 |
1990 | 36 | BOS | 5 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | -1.03 |
1991 | 37 | BOS | 10 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | -1.75 |
1992 | 38 | BOS | 10 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1.16 |
1993 | 39 | BOS | 4 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 2 | -1.19 |
1995 | 41 | CHH | 4 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 2 | -1.14 |
1997 | 43 | CHI | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.21 |
He gets shortchanged in 1984 because the C's are expected to win more games than was actually possible under the playoff structure back then, but it's still surprising to see him, McHale, and Bird so low on the list. Apparently the 80s-era Celtics allowed their opponents to extend series far longer than they should have been able to, given their regular-season winning percentages.
At the other end of the spectrum, the Lakers won 6.83 more games than they "should have" in the 2001 playoffs (we spent time exploring this just last week), and the king of all overachievers was the 1995 Houston Rockets, who won 7.67 more games than they were "supposed to". Those two playoff runs boost Robert Horry considerably; had the Rockets and Lakers performed as expected, Horry would rank 9th with 12.08 WAE instead of 1st with 26.58. But whether that makes him clutch or just plain lucky, you still have to acknowledge that Horry had one of the most remarkable postseason careers in NBA history.
March 21st, 2010 at 10:52 pm
What do you think the outcome illustrates? That Horry played "more harder" in the playoffs than any other player in NBA history?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:30 am
Horry gets a lot of credit for Clyde Drexler joining Houston late in 1995, fitting into the Rockets scheme at just the right time after initial stumbles, and helping them win a title.
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Yeah, that's the problem with making these estimations based on regular-season WPct. It admittedly makes more sense in football, because they don't really do any in-season blockbusters like the Drexler trade, but it's still fun to look at which players consistently played for teams who overachieved compared to their RS records.
But I was more surprised by the 80s Celtics, to be honest...
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
You think maybe the Celt's playoff record is that way because the top of the East was so tough in the '80s? They pretty much always had to deal with Phili, Milwaukee, Detroit, or LA. No cakewalks after round 1 really.
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Another issue is that there were simply more games some years rather than others. I'd be curious to see championships above expectation. Use the BR playoff probability report at the end of the regular season to determine the expected number of championships. I was thinking about this after reading knickerblogger recently on in addition to being great, Jordan was rather fortunate in the playoffs. This would be an interesting way to quantify that.
Ben
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
That's a good point -- the WAE list is dominated by modern players because they play far more playoff games now. Good idea, too, using end-of-season championship probability and seeing which teams/players fell short the most. I'll have to put that study together at some point.
I do disagree with that Knickerblogger post to an extent, though... Not that Jordan's the GOAT (he is), but that he was unnaturally "lucky" to win those rings. Using your idea about end-of-season championship probability and expected championships, we can actually see what the probability was that Jordan's run was due to random chance vs. skill. I'm guessing the odds that chance was responsible will be extraordinarily low...
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
BTW, Phil Jackson must be way over expectation as coach, right?
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I imagine Jordan will be well above expectation in championships, but I think many would dispute that much of that was luck. The question certainly wouldn't be settled. It would be difficult to figure out how to do so. Still, it would be very interesting to see the results.
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:20 am
I would have apparently been a much greater basketball player if I had Michael Jordan as my teammate:
Scottie Pippen 1988 2003 208 136 72 117 91 0.090 18.72
Horace Grant 1988 2002 170 109 61 94 76 0.092 15.59
Dennis Rodman 1987 1998 169 116 53 101 68 0.088 14.96
Bill Cartwright 1981 1994 124 78 46 64 60 0.118 14.65
John Salley 1987 2000 134 90 44 78 56 0.093 12.43
Rich Rifkin 1994 2008 203 123 80 111 92 0.059 11.90
B.J. Armstrong 1990 1999 105 71 35 59 46 0.113 11.88
John Paxson 1985 1994 119 74 45 62 57 0.099 11.81
Will Perdue 1989 2001 108 72 36 61 47 0.097 10.51
Steve Kerr 1990 2003 128 86 42 76 52 0.073 9.38
Stacey King 1990 1996 61 44 17 35 26 0.151 9.21
Scott Williams 1991 2004 94 61 33 52 42 0.094 8.82
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Jordan is great, but players like Grant, Pippen and Rodman are more than exceptional players on their own right, so no Jordan didn't entirely boost their WAE
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
I'd have been shocked if Robert Horry didn't top this list. How many players reached at least the 2nd round in 16 consecutive seasons?
The Jordan/Pippen Bulls almost always knocked out their first-round opponent in a sweep, and only twice went to 7 games. Pretty remarkable.
They never faced Horry in the playoffs!
I think, too, the Bird Celtics never 'upset' anyone in the playoffs?
It is surprising that Cliff Robinson is not at the bottom in WAE. Terry Porter edges him out, apparently bringing doom to his later clubs -- Min, Mia, SA.
Sort by (delta)WPct -- Stacey King rules!
Great stuff, Neil. An Instant Classic.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
The obvious follow-up data-dump would be to rank players by (Playoff) Win Shares vs Expected Win Shares. Totals and ratio.
You could figure out the normal ratio of PO/RS Win Shares, and use that as a basis for Expected.
Or with more work you could (as in this study) do it by opponent. I just don't know how you'd do that.
This could separate the coattail-riders from the stepper-uppers.
March 23rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
The 1980s Celtics were more overachievers in the regular season than tankers in the playoffs. KC Jones took the (very sensible) approach of sending out a bunch of stars & letting them go crazy. Less of the minutes management, more meaningless wins. 308 wins in 5 years, then they got old.
The odd thing about all this was how obvious it was as it happened, and how clear it was that KC didn't have any real choice.