Seizing the Moment in Crucial Games
Posted by Neil Paine on May 27, 2010
After watching Marv Albert's fantastic interview with President Obama a few nights ago, I ended up unearthing this old video, Marv's dramatic setup for Game 5 of the 1997 Finals:
Marv was at his best in that clip, practically lending biblical overtones to John Stockton's feats in Game 4, and I was so inspired by Albert's proclamation that Stock "seized the moment like few others in NBA history" that I wanted to find the players who had the best career performances in crucial games like that Game 4.
The trouble is, how does one define a "crucial game"? Obviously, elimination games are one definition. However, there are plenty of other games in a series that can also be defined as "crucial", including situations like Stockton above, where the team was down 2-1 and could be looking down the barrel of a 3-1 deficit with a loss, practically making the game an elimination game.
An easy definition I settled on for "crucial" games would be this: Game 3 or later in a 7-game series; Conference Semifinals or later; series tied, within 1 game either way, or an elimination game for the trailing team. Certainly there's plenty of room for argument there, and eventually I want to do a full-fledged study on the within-series "leverage index" of each game in a series, but for now I think that's an acceptable definition of "crucial" games.
Our production metric here will be Hollinger's Game Score, which isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but is easy to compute and does a decent job of capturing the conventional wisdom about player performance. Since 1991, here are the NBA leaders in career crucial game performance (min. 5 career crucial games played):
Player | g | gs | mp | fg | fga | fg3 | fg3a | ft | fta | orb | trb | ast | stl | blk | tov | pf | pts | GmSc/G |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Elton Brand | 5 | 5 | 233 | 60 | 111 | 0 | 1 | 29 | 36 | 24 | 54 | 25 | 4 | 17 | 10 | 12 | 149 | 27.4 |
Michael Jordan | 41 | 41 | 1736 | 483 | 1047 | 38 | 109 | 315 | 373 | 66 | 252 | 220 | 72 | 32 | 128 | 119 | 1319 | 22.7 |
Hakeem Olajuwon | 29 | 29 | 1237 | 318 | 588 | 1 | 6 | 126 | 165 | 71 | 323 | 130 | 46 | 103 | 101 | 117 | 763 | 22.4 |
LeBron James | 22 | 22 | 996 | 213 | 499 | 28 | 108 | 211 | 286 | 30 | 193 | 169 | 33 | 18 | 94 | 57 | 665 | 22.2 |
Dwyane Wade | 15 | 15 | 622 | 132 | 259 | 4 | 14 | 147 | 182 | 14 | 73 | 84 | 29 | 13 | 53 | 47 | 415 | 21.7 |
Dirk Nowitzki | 28 | 28 | 1248 | 240 | 536 | 28 | 83 | 244 | 274 | 54 | 347 | 91 | 35 | 25 | 70 | 87 | 752 | 21.4 |
Reggie Lewis | 9 | 9 | 381 | 100 | 195 | 1 | 6 | 46 | 56 | 17 | 44 | 35 | 16 | 10 | 12 | 29 | 247 | 21.2 |
Amare Stoudemire | 10 | 10 | 372 | 99 | 186 | 1 | 3 | 83 | 106 | 41 | 98 | 7 | 6 | 20 | 27 | 39 | 282 | 21.0 |
Charles Barkley | 27 | 27 | 1133 | 229 | 473 | 17 | 72 | 178 | 231 | 108 | 358 | 113 | 43 | 19 | 80 | 83 | 653 | 20.9 |
Magic Johnson | 8 | 8 | 356 | 43 | 101 | 9 | 33 | 62 | 68 | 9 | 64 | 103 | 9 | 0 | 34 | 16 | 157 | 20.6 |
Tim Duncan | 44 | 44 | 1827 | 390 | 810 | 2 | 15 | 303 | 431 | 162 | 621 | 155 | 28 | 123 | 142 | 147 | 1085 | 20.4 |
Shaquille O'Neal | 60 | 60 | 2334 | 560 | 975 | 0 | 0 | 347 | 669 | 238 | 698 | 151 | 34 | 128 | 164 | 238 | 1467 | 19.2 |
Allen Iverson | 19 | 19 | 873 | 205 | 540 | 38 | 106 | 125 | 164 | 21 | 91 | 120 | 42 | 6 | 53 | 44 | 573 | 18.8 |
Deron Williams | 7 | 7 | 281 | 54 | 119 | 10 | 33 | 38 | 45 | 4 | 28 | 72 | 10 | 5 | 28 | 22 | 156 | 18.4 |
Kevin Garnett | 23 | 23 | 922 | 203 | 410 | 5 | 16 | 99 | 119 | 55 | 275 | 83 | 26 | 33 | 61 | 74 | 510 | 18.1 |
Dwight Howard | 14 | 14 | 561 | 100 | 174 | 0 | 1 | 80 | 137 | 61 | 209 | 20 | 7 | 45 | 41 | 62 | 280 | 17.8 |
Karl Malone | 43 | 43 | 1779 | 380 | 804 | 0 | 9 | 236 | 320 | 106 | 431 | 188 | 54 | 24 | 112 | 153 | 996 | 17.5 |
Kevin Johnson | 22 | 20 | 820 | 157 | 335 | 5 | 16 | 141 | 169 | 15 | 63 | 176 | 21 | 7 | 54 | 50 | 460 | 17.1 |
Shawn Marion | 21 | 21 | 906 | 164 | 336 | 32 | 81 | 49 | 60 | 62 | 247 | 27 | 32 | 31 | 24 | 58 | 409 | 17.1 |
Kobe Bryant | 50 | 46 | 2075 | 452 | 1049 | 75 | 221 | 282 | 354 | 52 | 266 | 243 | 70 | 40 | 137 | 155 | 1261 | 17.0 |
Brad Daugherty | 10 | 10 | 412 | 65 | 121 | 0 | 0 | 60 | 77 | 25 | 99 | 34 | 6 | 13 | 22 | 30 | 190 | 16.9 |
Vince Carter | 13 | 13 | 531 | 117 | 267 | 22 | 68 | 55 | 76 | 28 | 73 | 69 | 16 | 11 | 32 | 43 | 311 | 16.8 |
Steve Nash | 34 | 34 | 1363 | 241 | 505 | 58 | 142 | 124 | 137 | 30 | 147 | 331 | 27 | 9 | 125 | 77 | 664 | 16.7 |
Shawn Kemp | 22 | 22 | 795 | 153 | 293 | 0 | 4 | 126 | 160 | 88 | 235 | 56 | 32 | 33 | 76 | 100 | 432 | 16.3 |
Pau Gasol | 18 | 18 | 727 | 125 | 229 | 0 | 0 | 68 | 97 | 49 | 185 | 59 | 11 | 36 | 35 | 53 | 318 | 16.3 |
Baron Davis | 8 | 8 | 336 | 49 | 121 | 21 | 61 | 35 | 59 | 6 | 30 | 53 | 30 | 3 | 16 | 35 | 154 | 16.2 |
Joe Dumars | 5 | 5 | 199 | 36 | 80 | 4 | 11 | 24 | 28 | 8 | 22 | 30 | 4 | 0 | 7 | 9 | 100 | 16.2 |
Larry Nance | 10 | 10 | 400 | 75 | 149 | 0 | 1 | 32 | 37 | 25 | 87 | 28 | 11 | 22 | 15 | 39 | 182 | 15.7 |
Patrick Ewing | 41 | 41 | 1641 | 340 | 720 | 5 | 12 | 173 | 254 | 102 | 450 | 74 | 33 | 97 | 102 | 158 | 858 | 15.1 |
Clyde Drexler | 28 | 28 | 1141 | 202 | 475 | 26 | 115 | 137 | 175 | 65 | 194 | 146 | 44 | 19 | 84 | 102 | 567 | 15.0 |
Scottie Pippen | 50 | 50 | 2029 | 333 | 744 | 41 | 145 | 202 | 295 | 125 | 436 | 263 | 95 | 41 | 159 | 166 | 909 | 14.9 |
Chris Webber | 17 | 17 | 638 | 145 | 280 | 1 | 7 | 40 | 69 | 44 | 148 | 65 | 15 | 13 | 41 | 60 | 331 | 14.6 |
Paul Pierce | 26 | 26 | 1059 | 162 | 402 | 30 | 111 | 180 | 220 | 20 | 166 | 119 | 32 | 16 | 76 | 86 | 534 | 14.4 |
Manu Ginobili | 37 | 14 | 1219 | 191 | 426 | 62 | 161 | 197 | 233 | 49 | 184 | 140 | 70 | 14 | 76 | 124 | 641 | 14.4 |
Jason Kidd | 24 | 24 | 1041 | 136 | 358 | 35 | 138 | 74 | 99 | 45 | 197 | 214 | 37 | 9 | 78 | 62 | 381 | 14.3 |
Terry Porter | 17 | 14 | 608 | 91 | 187 | 16 | 50 | 68 | 84 | 10 | 56 | 103 | 19 | 2 | 27 | 32 | 266 | 14.0 |
Anfernee Hardaway | 12 | 12 | 478 | 77 | 177 | 21 | 55 | 46 | 60 | 13 | 41 | 71 | 18 | 8 | 31 | 38 | 221 | 13.9 |
Jeff Malone | 6 | 6 | 240 | 56 | 110 | 1 | 2 | 19 | 23 | 6 | 24 | 18 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 15 | 132 | 13.8 |
Kevin McHale | 9 | 0 | 292 | 68 | 131 | 3 | 8 | 41 | 53 | 14 | 52 | 16 | 3 | 4 | 11 | 35 | 180 | 13.8 |
Tim Hardaway | 15 | 15 | 557 | 91 | 237 | 30 | 100 | 53 | 68 | 4 | 48 | 108 | 28 | 4 | 36 | 28 | 265 | 13.6 |
Latrell Sprewell | 23 | 22 | 997 | 181 | 436 | 20 | 63 | 108 | 125 | 19 | 110 | 75 | 38 | 9 | 58 | 47 | 490 | 13.5 |
James Worthy | 7 | 7 | 285 | 59 | 123 | 1 | 8 | 15 | 20 | 8 | 29 | 30 | 12 | 0 | 13 | 17 | 134 | 13.5 |
Hot Rod Williams | 10 | 0 | 334 | 49 | 90 | 0 | 0 | 54 | 67 | 19 | 63 | 33 | 9 | 13 | 23 | 36 | 152 | 13.4 |
Richard Hamilton | 44 | 44 | 1819 | 358 | 791 | 21 | 70 | 223 | 256 | 60 | 189 | 160 | 37 | 15 | 132 | 148 | 960 | 13.3 |
Chauncey Billups | 46 | 46 | 1809 | 229 | 605 | 83 | 253 | 254 | 289 | 31 | 171 | 260 | 48 | 8 | 89 | 125 | 795 | 13.2 |
Reggie Miller | 42 | 42 | 1595 | 267 | 598 | 106 | 256 | 189 | 211 | 16 | 121 | 94 | 42 | 11 | 77 | 83 | 829 | 13.2 |
John Stockton | 35 | 35 | 1257 | 153 | 347 | 23 | 82 | 95 | 111 | 29 | 115 | 335 | 66 | 11 | 96 | 100 | 424 | 13.0 |
Ricky Pierce | 11 | 11 | 345 | 79 | 165 | 8 | 22 | 47 | 49 | 11 | 27 | 26 | 9 | 5 | 18 | 27 | 213 | 13.0 |
Xavier McDaniel | 5 | 5 | 205 | 41 | 82 | 2 | 5 | 15 | 21 | 13 | 30 | 11 | 4 | 1 | 12 | 14 | 99 | 12.9 |
Kerry Kittles | 14 | 14 | 487 | 81 | 182 | 20 | 65 | 32 | 42 | 16 | 62 | 39 | 29 | 8 | 10 | 29 | 214 | 12.9 |
Danny Manning | 5 | 4 | 159 | 32 | 65 | 0 | 1 | 25 | 31 | 11 | 36 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 11 | 14 | 89 | 12.8 |
Horace Grant | 36 | 36 | 1387 | 183 | 327 | 0 | 3 | 84 | 118 | 104 | 323 | 82 | 39 | 52 | 44 | 119 | 450 | 12.8 |
Mike Bibby | 19 | 19 | 746 | 122 | 273 | 28 | 78 | 57 | 69 | 13 | 70 | 97 | 25 | 7 | 43 | 52 | 329 | 12.7 |
Jason Terry | 16 | 15 | 631 | 120 | 268 | 27 | 83 | 39 | 49 | 11 | 48 | 59 | 21 | 5 | 27 | 46 | 306 | 12.6 |
Dikembe Mutombo | 25 | 21 | 960 | 94 | 187 | 0 | 0 | 106 | 147 | 100 | 273 | 25 | 20 | 70 | 50 | 76 | 294 | 12.5 |
Mark Price | 10 | 10 | 337 | 64 | 136 | 16 | 38 | 24 | 27 | 3 | 19 | 63 | 13 | 1 | 28 | 24 | 168 | 12.4 |
Lamar Odom | 21 | 12 | 729 | 106 | 212 | 14 | 29 | 80 | 112 | 48 | 196 | 40 | 12 | 23 | 34 | 68 | 306 | 12.4 |
Rajon Rondo | 19 | 19 | 690 | 110 | 251 | 6 | 28 | 34 | 61 | 32 | 119 | 134 | 39 | 4 | 46 | 62 | 260 | 12.1 |
Ray Allen | 31 | 31 | 1244 | 194 | 457 | 68 | 192 | 105 | 114 | 27 | 125 | 112 | 25 | 12 | 71 | 78 | 561 | 12.0 |
Josh Howard | 17 | 17 | 634 | 114 | 249 | 10 | 48 | 59 | 78 | 41 | 150 | 31 | 22 | 7 | 43 | 66 | 297 | 11.8 |
David Robinson | 29 | 29 | 908 | 138 | 316 | 0 | 3 | 134 | 198 | 92 | 282 | 45 | 33 | 53 | 56 | 114 | 410 | 11.7 |
Bill Laimbeer | 5 | 5 | 147 | 27 | 52 | 0 | 4 | 16 | 18 | 16 | 42 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 6 | 16 | 70 | 11.6 |
Corey Maggette | 5 | 2 | 137 | 23 | 51 | 2 | 8 | 28 | 29 | 2 | 52 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 13 | 17 | 76 | 11.4 |
Avery Johnson | 16 | 15 | 610 | 87 | 173 | 0 | 4 | 37 | 55 | 11 | 29 | 130 | 22 | 2 | 43 | 50 | 211 | 11.4 |
Antoine Walker | 15 | 15 | 597 | 90 | 203 | 27 | 80 | 40 | 52 | 15 | 98 | 47 | 21 | 7 | 40 | 52 | 247 | 11.3 |
Aaron Brooks | 5 | 5 | 177 | 31 | 65 | 10 | 21 | 22 | 22 | 1 | 13 | 14 | 3 | 1 | 17 | 13 | 94 | 11.3 |
Jeff Hornacek | 31 | 31 | 1110 | 148 | 331 | 33 | 69 | 122 | 143 | 20 | 111 | 106 | 35 | 5 | 42 | 85 | 451 | 11.2 |
Doug Christie | 18 | 18 | 689 | 77 | 188 | 19 | 56 | 65 | 74 | 23 | 116 | 78 | 31 | 8 | 42 | 64 | 238 | 11.2 |
Jerome Kersey | 19 | 13 | 615 | 105 | 219 | 0 | 1 | 57 | 79 | 54 | 123 | 43 | 28 | 15 | 31 | 77 | 267 | 11.2 |
Rashard Lewis | 14 | 14 | 569 | 81 | 185 | 27 | 73 | 49 | 66 | 13 | 83 | 33 | 11 | 6 | 34 | 34 | 238 | 11.1 |
Mark Aguirre | 5 | 1 | 138 | 29 | 58 | 3 | 10 | 20 | 24 | 3 | 19 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 8 | 14 | 81 | 11.0 |
Glenn Robinson | 12 | 9 | 378 | 83 | 178 | 13 | 33 | 31 | 36 | 11 | 67 | 23 | 4 | 13 | 30 | 22 | 210 | 11.0 |
Boris Diaw | 12 | 9 | 396 | 70 | 146 | 2 | 6 | 27 | 43 | 24 | 75 | 49 | 11 | 14 | 31 | 36 | 169 | 10.9 |
Mookie Blaylock | 10 | 10 | 400 | 51 | 133 | 20 | 60 | 13 | 21 | 10 | 47 | 68 | 17 | 5 | 30 | 19 | 135 | 10.8 |
Ed Pinckney | 9 | 3 | 249 | 31 | 44 | 0 | 1 | 24 | 28 | 32 | 61 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 86 | 10.8 |
Brad Miller | 5 | 0 | 166 | 21 | 40 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 19 | 13 | 42 | 15 | 5 | 4 | 9 | 20 | 56 | 10.7 |
Gary Payton | 41 | 33 | 1449 | 203 | 468 | 35 | 112 | 89 | 114 | 39 | 154 | 225 | 55 | 9 | 70 | 117 | 530 | 10.7 |
Arvydas Sabonis | 9 | 9 | 296 | 38 | 79 | 3 | 10 | 27 | 28 | 9 | 69 | 17 | 9 | 5 | 6 | 31 | 106 | 10.6 |
Eddie Jones | 16 | 13 | 594 | 80 | 188 | 24 | 65 | 40 | 48 | 15 | 70 | 44 | 19 | 12 | 17 | 49 | 224 | 10.6 |
Dee Brown | 9 | 0 | 246 | 49 | 90 | 0 | 5 | 11 | 16 | 5 | 33 | 53 | 4 | 5 | 15 | 24 | 109 | 10.6 |
Rik Smits | 31 | 31 | 843 | 202 | 377 | 0 | 0 | 101 | 118 | 37 | 164 | 43 | 17 | 21 | 61 | 130 | 505 | 10.6 |
Hersey Hawkins | 17 | 16 | 602 | 61 | 140 | 19 | 51 | 61 | 70 | 25 | 71 | 42 | 26 | 9 | 23 | 39 | 202 | 10.5 |
Mo Williams | 8 | 8 | 320 | 41 | 100 | 16 | 38 | 32 | 37 | 5 | 30 | 32 | 6 | 0 | 18 | 29 | 130 | 10.5 |
Nick Anderson | 9 | 9 | 343 | 39 | 87 | 15 | 36 | 21 | 28 | 8 | 40 | 28 | 14 | 4 | 14 | 22 | 114 | 10.5 |
Vlade Divac | 32 | 32 | 1003 | 149 | 313 | 1 | 8 | 114 | 165 | 88 | 247 | 62 | 28 | 47 | 64 | 120 | 413 | 10.5 |
Antonio Daniels | 7 | 4 | 219 | 35 | 73 | 2 | 12 | 26 | 32 | 3 | 16 | 17 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 9 | 98 | 10.5 |
Mark Jackson | 29 | 29 | 912 | 103 | 242 | 31 | 80 | 51 | 60 | 34 | 123 | 223 | 29 | 0 | 69 | 59 | 288 | 10.3 |
Jameer Nelson | 6 | 4 | 181 | 28 | 55 | 11 | 20 | 16 | 23 | 4 | 22 | 31 | 0 | 1 | 14 | 20 | 83 | 10.3 |
Derek Harper | 18 | 17 | 656 | 84 | 194 | 30 | 85 | 36 | 48 | 12 | 53 | 94 | 31 | 2 | 38 | 59 | 234 | 10.2 |
Dennis Scott | 10 | 10 | 367 | 57 | 129 | 29 | 72 | 17 | 22 | 3 | 31 | 22 | 11 | 3 | 16 | 29 | 160 | 10.2 |
John Starks | 34 | 25 | 1207 | 181 | 425 | 70 | 190 | 99 | 137 | 18 | 104 | 162 | 43 | 2 | 93 | 124 | 531 | 10.1 |
Aaron McKie | 20 | 15 | 755 | 94 | 226 | 18 | 50 | 51 | 63 | 17 | 104 | 100 | 23 | 4 | 41 | 56 | 257 | 10.1 |
Richard Jefferson | 21 | 15 | 737 | 111 | 245 | 12 | 32 | 76 | 106 | 18 | 136 | 52 | 21 | 10 | 50 | 55 | 310 | 10.1 |
Glen Rice | 10 | 10 | 384 | 63 | 126 | 15 | 36 | 23 | 27 | 6 | 46 | 17 | 4 | 1 | 20 | 29 | 164 | 10.1 |
Carlos Boozer | 7 | 7 | 268 | 45 | 103 | 0 | 0 | 25 | 32 | 14 | 85 | 14 | 2 | 2 | 20 | 31 | 115 | 10.0 |
Larry Bird | 8 | 6 | 270 | 40 | 95 | 1 | 11 | 15 | 18 | 6 | 40 | 38 | 8 | 2 | 9 | 16 | 96 | 9.9 |
Detlef Schrempf | 18 | 14 | 615 | 97 | 188 | 11 | 30 | 52 | 70 | 20 | 90 | 45 | 13 | 2 | 42 | 50 | 257 | 9.8 |
Toni Kukoc | 26 | 11 | 738 | 111 | 237 | 24 | 69 | 52 | 67 | 23 | 99 | 93 | 23 | 9 | 30 | 62 | 298 | 9.6 |
Allan Houston | 19 | 19 | 805 | 132 | 308 | 25 | 62 | 65 | 75 | 6 | 58 | 47 | 10 | 6 | 55 | 45 | 354 | 9.5 |
Tim Thomas | 18 | 9 | 572 | 76 | 167 | 33 | 76 | 47 | 58 | 22 | 101 | 33 | 10 | 11 | 23 | 67 | 232 | 9.5 |
How about per-minute performance? (Minimum 100 career crucial minutes):
Player | g | gs | mp | Pts/48 | Reb/48 | Ast/48 | TS% | GmSc/48 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Elton Brand | 5 | 5 | 233 | 30.6 | 11.1 | 5.1 | 58.7 | 28.2 |
Amare Stoudemire | 10 | 10 | 372 | 36.4 | 12.6 | 0.9 | 60.6 | 27.1 |
Michael Jordan | 41 | 41 | 1736 | 36.5 | 7.0 | 6.1 | 54.5 | 25.7 |
Hakeem Olajuwon | 29 | 29 | 1237 | 29.6 | 12.5 | 5.0 | 57.8 | 25.2 |
Dwyane Wade | 15 | 15 | 622 | 32.0 | 5.6 | 6.5 | 61.2 | 25.1 |
Reggie Lewis | 9 | 9 | 381 | 31.1 | 5.5 | 4.4 | 56.2 | 24.0 |
Charles Barkley | 27 | 27 | 1133 | 27.7 | 15.2 | 4.8 | 56.8 | 23.9 |
Shaquille O'Neal | 60 | 60 | 2334 | 30.2 | 14.4 | 3.1 | 57.8 | 23.7 |
Tim Duncan | 44 | 44 | 1827 | 28.5 | 16.3 | 4.1 | 54.3 | 23.5 |
LeBron James | 22 | 22 | 996 | 32.0 | 9.3 | 8.1 | 53.2 | 23.5 |
Chris Paul | 4 | 4 | 160 | 25.2 | 6.9 | 12.3 | 52.4 | 23.2 |
Dirk Nowitzki | 28 | 28 | 1248 | 28.9 | 13.3 | 3.5 | 57.3 | 23.0 |
Magic Johnson | 8 | 8 | 356 | 21.2 | 8.6 | 13.9 | 60.0 | 22.2 |
Kevin Johnson | 22 | 20 | 820 | 26.9 | 3.7 | 10.3 | 56.2 | 22.1 |
Deron Williams | 7 | 7 | 281 | 26.7 | 4.8 | 12.3 | 56.2 | 22.0 |
Kevin Garnett | 23 | 23 | 922 | 26.5 | 14.3 | 4.3 | 55.2 | 21.7 |
Shawn Kemp | 22 | 22 | 795 | 26.1 | 14.2 | 3.4 | 59.4 | 21.6 |
Dwight Howard | 14 | 14 | 561 | 23.9 | 17.9 | 1.7 | 59.8 | 21.3 |
Vin Baker | 3 | 3 | 110 | 26.2 | 11.8 | 2.2 | 51.5 | 21.0 |
Manu Ginobili | 37 | 14 | 1219 | 25.2 | 7.2 | 5.5 | 60.6 | 20.9 |
Paul Millsap | 7 | 0 | 132 | 22.9 | 14.2 | 1.5 | 62.4 | 20.8 |
Kevin McHale | 9 | 0 | 292 | 29.6 | 8.5 | 2.6 | 58.3 | 20.4 |
Tony Allen | 9 | 0 | 106 | 21.8 | 6.8 | 3.6 | 65.2 | 20.3 |
Karl Malone | 43 | 43 | 1779 | 26.9 | 11.6 | 5.1 | 52.7 | 20.3 |
Cedric Ceballos | 15 | 7 | 250 | 25.2 | 9.6 | 2.1 | 57.9 | 20.0 |
Corey Maggette | 5 | 2 | 137 | 26.6 | 18.2 | 3.8 | 59.6 | 20.0 |
Steve Nash | 34 | 34 | 1363 | 23.4 | 5.2 | 11.7 | 58.7 | 20.0 |
Ricky Pierce | 11 | 11 | 345 | 29.6 | 3.8 | 3.6 | 57.1 | 19.9 |
Luol Deng | 3 | 3 | 130 | 22.9 | 9.3 | 3.3 | 64.4 | 19.8 |
Vince Carter | 13 | 13 | 531 | 28.1 | 6.6 | 6.2 | 51.8 | 19.7 |
Brad Daugherty | 10 | 10 | 412 | 22.1 | 11.5 | 4.0 | 61.3 | 19.7 |
Kobe Bryant | 50 | 46 | 2075 | 29.2 | 6.2 | 5.6 | 52.3 | 19.6 |
Allen Iverson | 19 | 19 | 873 | 31.5 | 5.0 | 6.6 | 46.8 | 19.6 |
Joe Dumars | 5 | 5 | 199 | 24.1 | 5.3 | 7.2 | 54.2 | 19.5 |
Danny Manning | 5 | 4 | 159 | 26.9 | 10.9 | 2.4 | 56.6 | 19.4 |
Pau Gasol | 18 | 18 | 727 | 21.0 | 12.2 | 3.9 | 58.5 | 19.3 |
Hot Rod Williams | 10 | 0 | 334 | 21.8 | 9.1 | 4.7 | 63.6 | 19.2 |
Mark Aguirre | 5 | 1 | 138 | 28.2 | 6.6 | 3.8 | 59.1 | 19.2 |
Shawn Marion | 21 | 21 | 906 | 21.7 | 13.1 | 1.4 | 56.4 | 19.0 |
Bill Laimbeer | 5 | 5 | 147 | 22.9 | 13.7 | 2.0 | 58.4 | 19.0 |
Larry Nance | 10 | 10 | 400 | 21.8 | 10.4 | 3.4 | 55.1 | 18.9 |
Terry Porter | 17 | 14 | 608 | 21.0 | 4.4 | 8.1 | 59.4 | 18.8 |
Travis Best | 14 | 0 | 251 | 22.8 | 5.2 | 7.1 | 61.2 | 18.8 |
Rik Smits | 31 | 31 | 843 | 28.8 | 9.3 | 2.4 | 58.9 | 18.7 |
Ed Pinckney | 9 | 3 | 249 | 16.6 | 11.8 | 1.0 | 76.3 | 18.7 |
Chris Webber | 17 | 17 | 638 | 24.9 | 11.1 | 4.9 | 53.3 | 18.7 |
Dee Brown | 9 | 0 | 246 | 21.3 | 6.4 | 10.3 | 56.2 | 18.6 |
Baron Davis | 8 | 8 | 336 | 22.0 | 4.3 | 7.6 | 52.4 | 18.6 |
Derrick Coleman | 3 | 3 | 128 | 19.1 | 13.9 | 1.5 | 64.4 | 18.2 |
Patrick Ewing | 41 | 41 | 1641 | 25.1 | 13.2 | 2.2 | 51.6 | 18.2 |
Which players had the biggest difference between their career regular-season per-game Game Score (since 1991) and their GmSc in crucial situations?
Player | g | GmSc/G | rsGmSc/G | Diff |
---|---|---|---|---|
Elton Brand | 5 | 27.4 | 16.0 | 11.4 |
Reggie Lewis | 9 | 21.2 | 14.6 | 6.5 |
Xavier McDaniel | 5 | 12.9 | 7.8 | 5.1 |
Ed Pinckney | 9 | 10.8 | 6.0 | 4.8 |
Hakeem Olajuwon | 29 | 22.4 | 17.7 | 4.7 |
Amare Stoudemire | 10 | 21.0 | 16.3 | 4.7 |
Ime Udoka | 5 | 8.7 | 4.1 | 4.7 |
Jerome Kersey | 19 | 11.2 | 6.6 | 4.6 |
Terry Porter | 17 | 14.0 | 9.6 | 4.4 |
Shawn Kemp | 22 | 16.3 | 11.9 | 4.4 |
Hot Rod Williams | 10 | 13.4 | 9.1 | 4.3 |
Deron Williams | 7 | 18.4 | 14.3 | 4.1 |
Joe Dumars | 5 | 16.2 | 12.1 | 4.1 |
Aaron McKie | 20 | 10.1 | 6.1 | 4.0 |
Antonio Daniels | 7 | 10.5 | 6.6 | 3.9 |
Dirk Nowitzki | 28 | 21.4 | 17.6 | 3.8 |
Quinton Ross | 5 | 6.8 | 3.1 | 3.7 |
Mark Aguirre | 5 | 11.0 | 7.3 | 3.7 |
Bill Laimbeer | 5 | 11.6 | 8.1 | 3.6 |
Steve Nash | 34 | 16.7 | 13.2 | 3.4 |
Jeff Malone | 6 | 13.8 | 10.6 | 3.2 |
Ricky Pierce | 11 | 13.0 | 9.9 | 3.1 |
Avery Johnson | 16 | 11.4 | 8.3 | 3.1 |
Aaron Brooks | 5 | 11.3 | 8.3 | 3.0 |
Kevin McHale | 9 | 13.8 | 10.8 | 3.0 |
Baron Davis | 8 | 16.2 | 13.3 | 3.0 |
Danny Manning | 5 | 12.8 | 10.1 | 2.7 |
Boris Diaw | 12 | 10.9 | 8.2 | 2.6 |
Mikki Moore | 6 | 7.1 | 4.5 | 2.6 |
Tim Duncan | 44 | 20.4 | 17.8 | 2.5 |
Dwight Howard | 14 | 17.8 | 15.4 | 2.4 |
James Worthy | 7 | 13.5 | 11.2 | 2.3 |
Manu Ginobili | 37 | 14.4 | 12.1 | 2.3 |
Tim Thomas | 18 | 9.5 | 7.3 | 2.2 |
Kerry Kittles | 14 | 12.9 | 10.7 | 2.2 |
Shawn Marion | 21 | 17.1 | 15.0 | 2.1 |
Dwyane Wade | 15 | 21.7 | 19.6 | 2.1 |
Bryon Russell | 29 | 8.0 | 6.0 | 2.1 |
Dikembe Mutombo | 25 | 12.5 | 10.5 | 2.0 |
Richard Hamilton | 44 | 13.3 | 11.3 | 2.0 |
Vinnie Johnson | 5 | 8.9 | 6.9 | 2.0 |
Dennis Scott | 10 | 10.2 | 8.2 | 2.0 |
DeSagana Diop | 11 | 4.6 | 2.6 | 1.9 |
Dee Brown | 9 | 10.6 | 8.7 | 1.9 |
John Starks | 34 | 10.1 | 8.4 | 1.7 |
Charles Barkley | 27 | 20.9 | 19.2 | 1.7 |
Doug Christie | 18 | 11.2 | 9.4 | 1.7 |
Magic Johnson | 8 | 20.6 | 18.9 | 1.7 |
Pete Chilcutt | 6 | 5.3 | 3.6 | 1.7 |
Andrew Lang | 6 | 7.2 | 5.6 | 1.6 |
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Anthony Bonner | 8 | 0.6 | 5.9 | -5.3 |
Alonzo Mourning | 27 | 8.1 | 13.4 | -5.3 |
Mike James | 12 | 1.9 | 7.3 | -5.4 |
Lawrence Funderburke | 5 | -0.5 | 5.0 | -5.5 |
Gary Trent | 6 | 0.6 | 6.1 | -5.5 |
Mehmet Okur | 19 | 4.9 | 10.5 | -5.6 |
Bonzi Wells | 9 | 2.6 | 8.2 | -5.7 |
Keith Van Horn | 17 | 4.7 | 10.5 | -5.8 |
Beno Udrih | 6 | 0.6 | 6.5 | -5.9 |
Carlos Delfino | 6 | -0.8 | 5.2 | -5.9 |
Sedale Threatt | 7 | 3.5 | 9.6 | -6.1 |
Kevin Willis | 20 | 2.6 | 9.0 | -6.4 |
Devin Harris | 12 | 3.6 | 10.0 | -6.4 |
Michael Olowokandi | 6 | -1.3 | 5.3 | -6.6 |
Clarence Weatherspoon | 5 | 2.6 | 9.6 | -7.0 |
Chris Mullin | 14 | 6.2 | 13.2 | -7.0 |
Antawn Jamison | 5 | 6.8 | 13.9 | -7.1 |
David Robinson | 29 | 11.7 | 18.9 | -7.2 |
Larry Bird | 8 | 9.9 | 17.2 | -7.3 |
Darrell Armstrong | 11 | 0.4 | 7.8 | -7.4 |
Terrell Brandon | 9 | 4.2 | 11.9 | -7.7 |
Frank Brickowski | 6 | -0.7 | 8.2 | -8.9 |
Rolando Blackman | 6 | 0.3 | 9.4 | -9.1 |
Gerald Wallace | 5 | 0.0 | 10.8 | -10.9 |
Stephon Marbury | 5 | 1.2 | 14.3 | -13.2 |
And finally, what about per-minute increases in crucial games?
Player | g | mp | GmSc/48 | rsGmSc/48 | Diff |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Elton Brand | 5 | 233 | 28.2 | 20.7 | 7.5 |
Tony Allen | 9 | 106 | 20.3 | 13.4 | 6.9 |
Travis Best | 14 | 251 | 18.8 | 13.1 | 5.7 |
Quinton Ross | 5 | 123 | 13.4 | 7.7 | 5.6 |
Reggie Lewis | 9 | 381 | 24.0 | 18.6 | 5.4 |
Vin Baker | 3 | 110 | 21.0 | 15.8 | 5.2 |
Bill Laimbeer | 5 | 147 | 19.0 | 13.8 | 5.1 |
Mikki Moore | 6 | 125 | 16.4 | 12.0 | 4.4 |
Hot Rod Williams | 10 | 334 | 19.2 | 14.8 | 4.4 |
Theo Ratliff | 6 | 142 | 17.3 | 13.0 | 4.3 |
Amare Stoudemire | 10 | 372 | 27.1 | 22.9 | 4.3 |
Daniel Gibson | 14 | 288 | 14.5 | 10.5 | 4.0 |
Pete Myers | 7 | 109 | 13.7 | 9.9 | 3.9 |
Mark Aguirre | 5 | 138 | 19.2 | 15.5 | 3.7 |
Ed Pinckney | 9 | 249 | 18.7 | 15.0 | 3.7 |
Chris Kaman | 4 | 103 | 17.7 | 14.1 | 3.6 |
Joe Dumars | 5 | 199 | 19.5 | 16.0 | 3.6 |
Dee Brown | 9 | 246 | 18.6 | 15.1 | 3.5 |
Paul Millsap | 7 | 132 | 20.8 | 17.3 | 3.5 |
DeSagana Diop | 11 | 198 | 12.1 | 8.8 | 3.3 |
Luol Deng | 3 | 130 | 19.8 | 16.6 | 3.2 |
Anthony Carter | 9 | 164 | 14.0 | 10.8 | 3.2 |
Vladimir Radmanovic | 12 | 260 | 15.3 | 12.3 | 3.1 |
Boris Diaw | 12 | 396 | 15.8 | 13.1 | 2.7 |
Jerome Kersey | 19 | 615 | 16.6 | 13.9 | 2.6 |
Deron Williams | 7 | 281 | 22.0 | 19.4 | 2.6 |
Kerry Kittles | 14 | 487 | 17.8 | 15.4 | 2.4 |
Blue Edwards | 6 | 142 | 16.0 | 13.6 | 2.4 |
Antonio Daniels | 7 | 219 | 16.0 | 14.0 | 2.1 |
Shawn Kemp | 22 | 795 | 21.6 | 19.6 | 2.0 |
Isaiah Rider | 4 | 135 | 16.8 | 14.9 | 1.9 |
Speedy Claxton | 10 | 122 | 15.6 | 13.9 | 1.7 |
Trevor Ariza | 14 | 314 | 15.8 | 14.1 | 1.7 |
Mike Brown | 6 | 121 | 11.5 | 9.9 | 1.6 |
Adrian Griffin | 18 | 226 | 12.7 | 11.1 | 1.6 |
Corey Maggette | 5 | 137 | 20.0 | 18.5 | 1.5 |
Todd MacCulloch | 21 | 211 | 17.4 | 15.9 | 1.5 |
George Lynch | 13 | 329 | 13.7 | 12.2 | 1.4 |
Michael Cage | 11 | 202 | 13.7 | 12.3 | 1.3 |
Grant Long | 4 | 136 | 14.5 | 13.2 | 1.3 |
Jason Maxiell | 9 | 130 | 15.2 | 13.9 | 1.3 |
John Salley | 11 | 133 | 13.9 | 12.6 | 1.3 |
Joe Kleine | 14 | 190 | 10.8 | 9.6 | 1.3 |
Danny Manning | 5 | 159 | 19.4 | 18.2 | 1.2 |
Charlie Ward | 22 | 534 | 13.9 | 12.7 | 1.1 |
Hakeem Olajuwon | 29 | 1237 | 25.2 | 24.1 | 1.1 |
Mickael Pietrus | 14 | 337 | 13.5 | 12.4 | 1.1 |
Terry Porter | 17 | 608 | 18.8 | 17.8 | 1.0 |
Jeff Malone | 6 | 240 | 16.6 | 15.6 | 1.0 |
Marquis Daniels | 15 | 144 | 14.5 | 13.6 | 1.0 |
… | |||||
Keith Van Horn | 17 | 404 | 9.5 | 16.0 | -6.4 |
Eddie Johnson | 18 | 350 | 10.1 | 16.7 | -6.5 |
Brent Barry | 23 | 429 | 8.2 | 14.8 | -6.6 |
Nenad Krstic | 3 | 107 | 6.7 | 13.5 | -6.7 |
Terry Teagle | 9 | 122 | 7.8 | 14.6 | -6.9 |
Terrell Brandon | 9 | 147 | 12.2 | 19.2 | -6.9 |
Sam Mitchell | 14 | 138 | 5.5 | 12.7 | -7.1 |
Sasha Pavlovic | 14 | 287 | 1.2 | 8.4 | -7.2 |
Kenny Anderson | 8 | 225 | 9.4 | 16.6 | -7.2 |
Kevin Willis | 20 | 281 | 8.9 | 16.2 | -7.3 |
Chuck Person | 11 | 229 | 6.1 | 13.5 | -7.4 |
Bill Wennington | 15 | 110 | 3.5 | 11.1 | -7.7 |
Cuttino Mobley | 5 | 214 | 6.1 | 13.8 | -7.7 |
Ronald Murray | 9 | 200 | 4.8 | 12.6 | -7.8 |
Larry Bird | 8 | 270 | 14.1 | 22.0 | -7.9 |
Antawn Jamison | 5 | 162 | 10.1 | 18.1 | -8.0 |
Chris Mullin | 14 | 365 | 11.3 | 19.5 | -8.1 |
Carlos Boozer | 7 | 268 | 12.5 | 20.7 | -8.2 |
David Robinson | 29 | 908 | 18.0 | 26.3 | -8.3 |
Danny Ferry | 16 | 122 | 3.0 | 11.4 | -8.4 |
Chris Dudley | 9 | 109 | 1.8 | 10.3 | -8.5 |
Hubert Davis | 20 | 277 | 2.5 | 11.6 | -9.0 |
Rasho Nesterovic | 6 | 109 | 3.0 | 12.4 | -9.5 |
Devin Harris | 12 | 313 | 6.6 | 17.4 | -10.8 |
Walter McCarty | 16 | 102 | -3.1 | 9.6 | -12.6 |
May 27th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Shocking result #1: Vince Carter has performed at the same level in career crucial games as Kobe Bryant.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Any chance of weighing the Gamescore with wins/losses? That way Jordan's 41 amazing playoff performances (I'm guessing most were wins on the path to championships) outrank Brand's 5 amazing but useless outings?
May 27th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Can you add this Disclaimer: "Larry Bird's at the bottom because this test only goes back to the crippled Bird '91 & '92 playoffs." ?
Also, that's m'boy Reggie Lewis way up that list! Interesting mix of players. Not surprised that the post '91 gamescores in these situations show Jordan and Hakeem with the most sustained excellence. Knowing how long Shaq has played, and how poorly he's played the last few seasons, it's impressive that he's as high as he is.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Shaq's hayday playoff numbers were filthy, disgusting, discombobulating even.
May 27th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Any chance at looking at game scoe in "crucial" vs. "non-crucial" playoff games?
May 27th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon are not surprises near the top of almost every list. However, there must be something wrong with the way these lists are calculated. Elton Brand should not ever be on the top of any list regarding performances in crucial games. Elton Brand has only won a handful of playoff series. I believe this is yet another case that John "Stats are the only thing that matters" Hollinger needs to explain.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
You do know it's possible to play really well and for your team to still lose, right? Here are Brand's last 8 playoff games:
May 27th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
He put those numbers up against the Suns & Nuggets, right?
May 27th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Marv always does a good job, but the overdramatic music and fonts ruined that video for me.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
"Marv always does a good job"
No offense to you, Da-wight, but I'm not a Marv fan. I cannot understand why he's been such a respected broadcaster. I mean, he's not horrible, but I just don't hear anything beyond compentency in his broadcasts.
Mike Breen is head and shoulders above Marv. Dan Shulman is better than Marv. Even Kevin Harlan is better.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Shocking result #2: Neil Paine takes an unnecessary dig at Kobe Bryant in every single post he has ever written. Sad.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Tell Kobe to put up better numbers in crucial games, and I won't have to keep pointing out these inconvenient truths to you...
May 27th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Neil, these aren't inconvenient truths to me at all. I'm well equipt with the skills to interpret quantitative analysis on my own, and also have a good understanding of Kobe's various successes and failures. There are spectacular examples of both to be sure.
But even if the numbers you rely on support your snide Kobe remarks, that doesn't make it any more professional to keep making them for your personal jollies. Share the hate like a classy analyst would! How about an expose on the advanced statistics of Carmelo Anthony and how in the last 3 seasons (and 5 of his first 7) he has not ranked higher than 3rd in WS.... on his own team!!! How many times has he ranked in the NBA Top 50 in WS/48? Is his lack of production an inconvenient truth that needs to be revealed to Nuggets fans?
I love the site and don't really want to have a go at you, but there's a big difference between churning out numbers and making thoughtful,unbiased, useful inferences about player performance. Make an effort to better understand and incorporate important things like context into your analysis, like someone with a greater appreciation of statistical inference would.
For example, you inserted a specific slam directed toward Kobe's 2008 Game 6 vs Boston in your "Elimination Chokes" blog, neglecting to mention that a large proportion of Kobe's negative Win Shares were due to DWS (3rd worst in terms of DWS) brought on by him playing heavy minutes against Boston's offensive onslaught. His OWS wasn't even in the worst 50. His ORtg was in the Top 15 of the listed games.
If we are just going to take the case of Kobe versus Vince in crucial games: How many of Kobe's "crucial games" were when he was 18,19 year old bench player? How many of Kobe's games were produced at the highest level of competition (The Finals) and how many of Vince's? How many of Kobe's games were up against some of the statistically toughest defenses of all-time (99 Spurs 95.0 DRtg, 04 Spurs 94.1 DRtg, 04 Pistons 95.4 DRtg, 08 Celtics 98.9 DRtg) or other tough defenses (03 Spurs 99.7 DRtg, 04 Rockets 99.0 DRtg, 04 Wolves 99.7 DRtg etc)? How are Kobe's averages effected by the admittedly horrible Detroit series in '04? How about taking a look at the distribution of Gamescores, not just the average.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Dude, stop. I wrote an ode to Kobe's performance just a week ago:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6033
I've criticized Carmelo's advanced stats before:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3855
It's ridiculous that I am apparently not allowed to point out anything negative about Kobe without Laker fans getting on my case about it... Do you think I put together this post specifically to slam Bryant? I had no idea who was going to come out looking good or bad beforehand, and I merely expressed my surprise that Bryant (a player many regard as "clutch") would have the same career performance in critical games as Vince Carter (a player many regard as a choker). Are there more context to these numbers? Sure. But that's beyond the scope of this post.
You seem to think I'm going after Kobe on purpose... But did it ever occur to you that he fails to show up as highly on these lists as you want for a different reason?
May 27th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Anybody remember Game 5? ;)
May 27th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
The second half of Game 5? But I'm not done arguing yet!
FYI: 45 of Kobe's 50 "crucial" games came in the year 2000 or later.
May 27th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
I don't have any burning desire for Kobe to show up highly on these lists, nor do I think you have any ulterior motives before or while you're creating them. I don't mind what you point out about Kobe, negative or otherwise, its just the number of snide jabs you repeatedly and almost exclusively take at him that irks me (as well as other Laker fans I take it). I don't recall getting on your case before though, just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Also, your last question seems to be suggesting that I have some delusional view of Kobe and that with your lists you're helping me see the error of my ways. Don't lump me and all Kobe/Laker fans into some "Kobe=GOAT, Kobe's never had a bad game" loony bin. Is context not a reason worth discussing for Kobe's position on this list and others? Take a look at the breakdown of playoff defenses (statistically by DRtg, EFG% defense etc ,and also qualitatively by All-D selections for perimeter defenders,All-D selections + DPOY for interior defenders) that Kobe has faced in his career vs the defenses faced by other elite perimeter scorers of this generation and the past. The difference is not insignificant.
I regret, and apologise for, taking a stab at the general quality of your analysis because I do enjoy reading your posts and have noticed that you are very good about taking on feedback and making adjustments to improve your methodology. This is an admirable quality which it seems few possess though many would benefit from.
May 27th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Thanks. And I apologize for assuming you were one of "those" irrational Laker fans. I also apologize if it seems like I exclusively take shots at Kobe -- I can assure you that if, say, Carmelo Anthony was regarded by many to be the best player in the league, I would take shots at him often instead, since both have a reputation that is slightly higher than is deserved from their numbers. But Kobe is the guy that has that rep, not Carmelo, so he's the one whose mythology it seems like I'm constantly battling.
For what it's worth, Kobe is having a great crucial game tonight, and would move up on this list if I ran it again tomorrow. And I'd like to investigate the quality of playoff defenses he's faced vs. that of other stars -- I might actually write that tomorrow. I guess I was upset because many people don't seem to understand that I only have a finite amount of time to write these posts, I've cranked out one a day since the playoffs started, and I do many other things for Sports-Reference beyond this blog (it's actually a small % of my total job).
But it's OK, no hard feelings on my part. I'll try to take less of a "take him down a peg" approach to players like Bryant and Hakeem Olajuwon (guys whose reputations are slightly better than their stats) in the future.
Btw - heckuva game, wouldn't you say? :)
May 27th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
I actually agree with Lakers fans (ewww!). I always like to drop the under 21 and over 33 seasons to try to find a more exemplary picture of a player's ability, because those too young and too old seasons skew things and aren't really what we mean when we ask, "how good is / was this player?". I ran the averages for Jordan and Kobe based on the first table, and both players appear to have been pressing a bit in these games.
Jordan: 42.3min 32.2pts 6.2rbs 5.4asts 1.8stls .8blks 3.1tos 46%fg 35%fg3 84%ft
Kobe: 41.5min 25.2pts 5.3rbs 4.9asts 1.4stls .8blks 2.7tos 43%fg 34%fg3 80%ft
Now the sample size for Jordan is very select. '91 to '98 is almost entirely championship years. However, it also includes his uneven '95 playoffs after baseball and his '98 season where he was 35. Kobe's entire career is in here. They are both shooting about 2-3% lower than their playoff averages from the field with very close to their playoff averages in production (though I doubt Jordan's total playoff averages would be that low if we included the 1985-1990 seasons as well, so his drop off in "crucial" games may or may not be more pronounced than that).
My point being, that when we include all of Kobe's seasons this way, we see that his drop off during these crucial games is almost non-existent. So if he's as good as ever in big games... that's not bad, right? Coming out basically even in big pressure situations is sort of a win as regards rising to the occasion (when we're assuming lesser players shrink). It's all MJ could manage.
May 27th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Artest! Wow!
May 28th, 2010 at 1:34 am
Thanks Neil, I'm glad we cool :)
I'm actually a Team Hakeem guy too, so let's not go there I guess.
Amazing game tonight for sure, I've been convulsing for the last hour.
May 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Neil,
One thing I've been trying to tell my friends about Kobe is despite his reputation as a "the best clutch player in the game"...just how many last minute winning playoff shots has he actually hit? I can't remember any. On LA's sports talk radio station, they have been talking about how loud Staples Center was after Artest hit his shot and comparing it to Fisher's last second dagger against the Spurs, Horry's big shots, etc. Nobody remembers any of Kobe's. Can you do an analysis on this and find out who really is the best at hitting last second winners in playoff games?
May 28th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
82games actually looked at that in 2009:
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
May 29th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Hakeeeeem! Neck and neck with MJ....
May 31st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
More great lists from Neil Paine. Notable is the starking contrast between Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson. This also reinforces what any stats guy should already know, Kobe's "clutch" status is way overrated. The last list is most signficant and if you look at names with at least 10 games unexpected guys like Travis Best, Jerome Kersey, Shawn Kemp, Todd MacCulloch and Charlie Ward have very impressive numbers.