Most Similar NBA Finalists & Finals Matchups
Posted by Neil Paine on June 1, 2010
You might think the most similar Finals matchup to this week's upcoming Celtics-Lakers showdown is the one that took place between the same teams just two years ago. After all, most of the cast of characters is exactly the same as it was in '08, with the primary superficial differences being that Andrew Bynum is available for L.A. this time, Rajon Rondo has improved from a role player to a legit star for Boston, and Ron Artest was added to the Lakers in Trevor Ariza's Vladimir Radmanovic's place.
However, the 2010 versions of both teams are actually dramatically different from their '08 incarnations when you look at their offensive & defensive performances relative to the league. To study this, I wanted to look at how said performances stack up to those of past NBA Finalists, and what the most comparable historical matchup is to this year's Lakers-Celtics duel. In order to measure offensive and defensive efficiencies for teams that played before 1973-74 (when the league didn't track the necessary data to calculate possessions), I had to develop a way to estimate possessions used from the stats that were kept back to 1951 (before 1951, they didn't even track rebounds!). I found that the best formula to predict a team's possessions used from the basic team totals that existed going back to 1950-51 was this:
Possessions ~ =-4.05*Wins - 3.96*Losses + 0.97*FG + 0.75*FGA + 0.70*FTA - 1.37*OReb + 0.53*TotReb + 0.31*Fouls - 0.50*Points +0.19*Opp. Pts
Amazingly, for full seasons this equation can predict most teams' possessions within +/- 104 of their actual total.
Armed with these estimates, I can now calculate offensive & defensive efficiency rates for every team in the NBA from 1951-2010. I can also compare those rates to the league average using what's called a z-score, or the # of standard deviations above or below average the team was in a given category. As an example, here are the best offenses and defenses of all-time (regular season + playoffs combined) using z-scores & the estimated efficiencies:
All-Time Best Offenses | All-Time Best Defenses | ||||||||||
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Year | Team | Pts | ePoss | eORtg | Offense | Year | Team | oppPts | ePoss | eDRtg | Defense |
2007 | Phoenix Suns | 10182 | 8775.7 | 116.0 | 3.25 | 1993 | New York Knicks | 9315 | 9409.9 | 99.0 | 2.72 |
2005 | Phoenix Suns | 10734 | 9245.7 | 116.1 | 2.92 | 1984 | Milwaukee Bucks | 9952 | 9693.9 | 102.7 | 2.31 |
1971 | Milwaukee Bucks | 11237 | 10385.1 | 108.2 | 2.72 | 1963 | Boston Celtics | 10437 | 11799.9 | 88.5 | 2.24 |
2010 | Phoenix Suns | 10753 | 9241.6 | 116.4 | 2.59 | 2004 | San Antonio Spurs | 7771 | 8211.1 | 94.6 | 2.19 |
1982 | Denver Nuggets | 10729 | 9463.4 | 113.4 | 2.56 | 1965 | Boston Celtics | 9669 | 11360.6 | 85.1 | 2.14 |
2004 | Dallas Mavericks | 9124 | 8231.5 | 110.8 | 2.49 | 1962 | Boston Celtics | 10489 | 12120.7 | 86.5 | 2.13 |
1975 | Houston Rockets | 9389 | 9015.3 | 104.1 | 2.40 | 1975 | Washington Bullets | 9700 | 10395.6 | 93.3 | 2.13 |
1987 | Los Angeles Lakers | 11826 | 10204.9 | 115.9 | 2.34 | 2008 | Boston Celtics | 9712 | 9633.4 | 100.8 | 2.11 |
2004 | Sacramento Kings | 9575 | 8677.1 | 110.3 | 2.33 | 1970 | New York Knicks | 10712 | 11259.6 | 95.1 | 2.08 |
2006 | Phoenix Suns | 11030 | 9748.3 | 113.1 | 2.31 | 1952 | Minneapolis Lakers | 6276 | 7742.7 | 81.1 | 2.06 |
2009 | Phoenix Suns | 8974 | 7845.5 | 114.4 | 2.13 | 1990 | Detroit Pistons | 9952 | 9779.1 | 101.8 | 2.05 |
1988 | Boston Celtics | 11074 | 9655.8 | 114.7 | 2.12 | 2003 | New Jersey Nets | 9198 | 9374.3 | 98.1 | 2.04 |
1998 | Seattle Supersonics | 9198 | 8125.0 | 113.2 | 2.07 | 1964 | Boston Celtics | 9382 | 11140.7 | 84.2 | 2.02 |
1996 | Chicago Bulls | 10378 | 8925.2 | 116.3 | 2.02 | 2007 | Cleveland Cavaliers | 9353 | 9320.3 | 100.4 | 2.00 |
1985 | Los Angeles Lakers | 12096 | 10552.3 | 114.6 | 2.01 | 1999 | San Antonio Spurs | 5617 | 5914.5 | 95.0 | 1.99 |
1978 | San Antonio Spurs | 10032 | 9395.3 | 106.8 | 2.00 | 2005 | Detroit Pistons | 9476 | 9485.3 | 99.9 | 1.99 |
1995 | Seattle Supersonics | 9444 | 8142.5 | 116.0 | 2.00 | 1989 | Utah Jazz | 8518 | 8283.9 | 102.8 | 1.98 |
2004 | Seattle Supersonics | 7964 | 7289.2 | 109.3 | 1.99 | 2000 | Los Angeles Lakers | 9807 | 10111.8 | 97.0 | 1.97 |
2002 | Dallas Mavericks | 9501 | 8602.3 | 110.4 | 1.98 | 1989 | Detroit Pistons | 9843 | 9566.1 | 102.9 | 1.96 |
1997 | Seattle Supersonics | 9535 | 8331.9 | 114.4 | 1.94 | 2008 | Houston Rockets | 8090 | 7985.3 | 101.3 | 1.94 |
1951 | Rochester Royals | 6930 | 7595.4 | 91.2 | 1.93 | 2002 | Miami Heat | 7276 | 7359.3 | 98.9 | 1.93 |
1993 | Phoenix Suns | 11813 | 10403.0 | 113.6 | 1.92 | 1959 | Boston Celtics | 9183 | 10757.3 | 85.4 | 1.93 |
1986 | Los Angeles Lakers | 11235 | 9921.6 | 113.2 | 1.86 | 1957 | Boston Celtics | 8258 | 9839.1 | 83.9 | 1.92 |
1994 | Phoenix Suns | 9940 | 8867.8 | 112.1 | 1.85 | 1994 | New York Knicks | 9696 | 9729.0 | 99.7 | 1.92 |
1962 | Cincinnati Royals | 10314 | 10483.5 | 98.4 | 1.84 | 2004 | Detroit Pistons | 8765 | 9161.8 | 95.7 | 1.92 |
Given those two metrics, we can now measure which NBA Finalists are the most similar in both quality and offensive/defensive balance to this year's participants using least squares:
Year | Team | Offense | Defense | Diff | Result |
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2010 | LAL | 0.49 | 1.10 | ||
1974 | BOS | 0.33 | 1.10 | 0.02 | W |
1994 | HOU | 0.41 | 0.94 | 0.03 | W |
1980 | PHI | 0.32 | 1.04 | 0.03 | L |
1953 | NYK | 0.67 | 1.05 | 0.04 | L |
2001 | PHI | 0.26 | 1.08 | 0.05 | L |
1954 | SYR | 0.77 | 1.09 | 0.08 | L |
2003 | SAS | 0.72 | 1.26 | 0.08 | W |
1990 | POR | 0.26 | 1.29 | 0.08 | L |
2006 | MIA | 0.20 | 1.08 | 0.08 | W |
2010 | BOS | 0.21 | 1.23 | 0.09 | |
2009 | ORL | 0.58 | 1.43 | 0.12 | L |
1954 | MNL | 0.21 | 1.44 | 0.19 | W |
1998 | CHI | 0.67 | 1.51 | 0.20 | W |
1975 | GSW | 0.77 | 0.70 | 0.25 | W |
1960 | BOS | 0.41 | 1.61 | 0.26 | W |
1992 | POR | 1.01 | 1.05 | 0.27 | L |
1973 | NYK | 1.00 | 0.94 | 0.29 | W |
1977 | POR | 1.05 | 1.03 | 0.32 | W |
1968 | BOS | -0.05 | 1.33 | 0.34 | W |
Year | Team | Offense | Defense | Diff | Result |
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2010 | BOS | 0.21 | 1.23 | ||
1990 | POR | 0.26 | 1.29 | 0.01 | L |
2006 | MIA | 0.20 | 1.08 | 0.02 | W |
2001 | PHI | 0.26 | 1.08 | 0.03 | L |
1974 | BOS | 0.33 | 1.10 | 0.03 | W |
1954 | MNL | 0.21 | 1.44 | 0.04 | W |
1980 | PHI | 0.32 | 1.04 | 0.05 | L |
1968 | BOS | -0.05 | 1.33 | 0.08 | W |
2010 | LAL | 0.49 | 1.10 | 0.09 | |
1994 | HOU | 0.41 | 0.94 | 0.13 | W |
2004 | LAL | -0.13 | 1.07 | 0.14 | L |
1969 | BOS | -0.08 | 1.54 | 0.18 | W |
2009 | ORL | 0.58 | 1.43 | 0.18 | L |
1967 | SFW | -0.19 | 1.10 | 0.18 | L |
1960 | BOS | 0.41 | 1.61 | 0.18 | W |
1976 | BOS | -0.28 | 1.23 | 0.24 | W |
1953 | NYK | 0.67 | 1.05 | 0.24 | L |
2003 | SAS | 0.72 | 1.26 | 0.26 | W |
1998 | CHI | 0.67 | 1.51 | 0.29 | W |
1954 | SYR | 0.77 | 1.09 | 0.33 | L |
Bizarrely, neither team is truly similar to their 2008 incarnation; instead, they're actually fairly similar to each other! The 2010 Lakers are an above-average but hardly historically strong offensive team (+0.49) and a very good defensive one (+1.10); the 2008 Lakers were a very good offensive team (+1.31) and an above-average but hardly historically strong defensive one (+0.54). In other words, L.A. has totally flip-flopped its strengths since '08, becoming a defense-first team with merely a decent offense instead of an offense-first team with merely a decent defense. Meanwhile, Boston's split didn't change like the Lakers' did -- they simply got a lot worse in each area. In 2008, Boston had a very good offense (+1.06) and one of the greatest defenses of all time (+2.11); this year, they have a fairly average offense (+0.21) and a very good but not historically dominant defense (+1.23). This is clearly not the matchup that we saw two years ago.
OK, so which matchup is it most similar to, then? Again, let's turn to least squares, using all 4 participant's z-scores as the inputs:
Year | LAL Equiv | Offense | Defense | BOS Equiv | Offense | Defense | Diff | Winner |
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2010 | LAL | 0.49 | 1.10 | BOS | 0.21 | 1.23 | ||
1954 | SYR | 0.77 | 1.09 | MNL | 0.21 | 1.44 | 0.12 | MNL |
1953 | MNL | 1.07 | 1.01 | NYK | 0.67 | 1.05 | 0.60 | MNL |
1994 | HOU | 0.41 | 0.94 | NYK | -0.08 | 1.92 | 0.60 | HOU |
1998 | UTA | 1.03 | 0.69 | CHI | 0.67 | 1.51 | 0.75 | CHI |
1990 | POR | 0.26 | 1.29 | DET | 0.28 | 2.05 | 0.76 | DET |
1969 | LAL | 0.87 | 0.42 | BOS | -0.08 | 1.54 | 0.78 | BOS |
2003 | SAS | 0.72 | 1.26 | NJN | -0.03 | 2.04 | 0.79 | SAS |
2002 | LAL | 0.70 | 1.75 | NJN | -0.21 | 1.64 | 0.80 | LAL |
2009 | LAL | 1.31 | 1.31 | ORL | 0.58 | 1.43 | 0.90 | LAL |
2004 | LAL | -0.13 | 1.07 | DET | -0.11 | 1.92 | 0.96 | DET |
2001 | LAL | 1.25 | 0.49 | PHI | 0.26 | 1.08 | 0.99 | LAL |
1975 | GSW | 0.77 | 0.70 | WSB | 0.31 | 2.13 | 1.06 | GSW |
1958 | STL | 0.29 | 0.34 | BOS | 0.13 | 1.91 | 1.10 | STL |
2006 | DAL | 1.40 | 0.52 | MIA | 0.20 | 1.08 | 1.20 | MIA |
2005 | SAS | 0.86 | 1.75 | DET | -0.24 | 1.99 | 1.32 | SAS |
1974 | MIL | 1.62 | 1.33 | BOS | 0.33 | 1.10 | 1.35 | BOS |
1955 | FTW | 0.84 | 0.21 | SYR | -0.46 | 1.33 | 1.38 | SYR |
1978 | WSB | -0.39 | 1.16 | SEA | -0.57 | 1.33 | 1.41 | WSB |
1973 | LAL | 1.33 | 0.91 | NYK | 1.00 | 0.94 | 1.45 | NYK |
1979 | WSB | -0.18 | 1.72 | SEA | -0.49 | 1.63 | 1.48 | SEA |
1970 | LAL | 0.50 | 0.37 | NYK | 0.90 | 2.08 | 1.74 | NYK |
1986 | BOS | 1.39 | 1.72 | HOU | 0.44 | 0.51 | 1.76 | BOS |
1967 | PHI | 1.72 | 0.72 | SFW | -0.19 | 1.10 | 1.84 | PHI |
1977 | PHI | 0.97 | 0.16 | POR | 1.05 | 1.03 | 1.86 | POR |
1992 | CHI | 1.40 | 1.76 | POR | 1.01 | 1.05 | 1.92 | CHI |
Of the top 25 most similar Finals matchups, the Lakers' equivalent won 13. However, only one matchup was extremely similar: the 1954 face-off between the Syracuse Nationals (2010 equivalent: Los Angeles) and the Minneapolis Lakers (2010 equivalent: Boston).
The Lakers were trying to wrap up their 3rd straight NBA title and their 5th NBA/BAA crown in 6 years, but even though they had home-court advantage, they should have been seen as underdogs, since Syracuse's SRS was a full point and a half better than Minneapolis'. The Lakers won Game 1 at home, 79-68, but the Nats responded by stealing Game 2 62-60 when Paul Seymour made a game-winner with 7 seconds to play. As the series shifted to Syracuse, George Mikan dominated Game 3 en route to an 81-67 win, but the Nationals tied the series with an 80-69 win in Game 4. The turning point was Game 5 in Syracuse, as the Lakers took a 3-2 lead with an 84-73 victory that pushed 'Cuse to the brink. Jim Neal's game-winner with 4 seconds left sealed a 65-63 Syracuse win and forced a 7th game, but Minneapolis prevailed 87-80 in the deciding matchup, securing the championship in what was their final season together before Mikan retired and the NBA's first dynasty broke apart. For their part, Syracuse would bounce back and win the title the following season in another 7-game classic. Given the parallels, it wouldn't be surprising to see the 2010 Celtics prevail in what could be their veterans' last dance -- much as their 1954 equivalents in Minneapolis did -- and watch the talented Lakers be in the thick of things yet again in 2011, just as Syracuse responded in 1955.
Or, these current teams could always write their own chapter in history. Either way, we'll find out starting on Thursday...
June 1st, 2010 at 11:28 am
Shouldn't the 1998 teams be switched? :)
June 1st, 2010 at 11:53 am
Out of fear of Kobe hate mail, I will abstain from comment. :-)
June 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Celts in 6; Rondo wins finals MVP....
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 am
Seems like a Boston sweep,Kobe will shoot around 35%.Rajon for finals MVP having averaged a trip/doub.
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 am
How about throwing the regular season numbers out the window and using only the playoff numbers prior to the finals, since this year's Boston regular season performance is different from their playoff run?
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
I think in essence you should mention that Artest replaces from Radmonovich from that 2008 team as ariza played a miniscule role in those finals.. and Artest is a huge improvement from Vladrad...
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
Good stuff! Love the fact the old Celtics rate well defensively.
In your formula, do you estimate offensive rebounds in years where it is not known? If so, what % of the total are you assuming are offensive?
Thanks
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
Mohan - Good point; Artest literally took Ariza's place on the Laker roster, but in terms of the 2008 team's minutes, he's taking all of Radmanovic's and also eating into some of Odom's.
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
Dquinn - I should have noted this, but I'm assuming 30% of total rebounds are offensive for years where the data is missing. (Justin does this in his pre-1974 PER estimate: http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/per.html)
June 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 am
Since the 95-96 Chicago Bulls hold the best regular season record at 72-10, I would have expected them to be at the top of both lists, since they had won the most games and lost the fewest...however my understanding of statistics is meager...I guess in my mind the win/loss record should be weighted more?
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Neil,
In this post you show the Celtics as having the better defense. But in the preview post you show the Lakers as having the better defense. Which is it?
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
Gerrit - This post uses combined regular season + playoffs data, while the preview post just uses regular-season numbers. I haven't run the numbers yet to adjust for playoff SOS, but playing Phoenix definitely made L.A.'s playoff numbers look worse.
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
Zorza - W/L isn't explicitly factored into the "best offenses & defenses" table, but there's an extremely strong relationship between offensive & defensive ratings and team winning %, so it's implicitly in there. The '96 Bulls were neither the best offensive nor the best defensive team of all time, but they combined offense and defense better than any other team ever:
June 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I believe those '96 Bulls have the highest average margin of victory ever. If I'm not mistaken the '97 Bulls have the second highest. Part of the reason for that is that the league was fairly top-heavy at the time (and if you look at other teams with total wins in the high-60s that tends to be true as well), but ironically that '96 team lost to expansion Toronto Raptors. One out of ten total losses came to a bottom feeder.
June 2nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I should do a post on "worst losses by a dominant club"... Everybody has to lose sometime, and for a force of nature like those Bulls, any loss is probably a "bad loss". But some are more embarrassing than others.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Looking at the teams near the top of each "All-Time Best" list, most were very good teams, and/or had a reputation as a very good offensive or defensive team (even if some couldn't put both sides together, and therefore may not have been a great team overall). One team jumps out at me as not obviously fitting this criteria, though: the '75 Rockets, who are #7 on the All-Time Best Offense list. They were a little before my time, but I don't remember ever seeing them identified as an offensive juggernaut. They had a .500 record. In terms of raw points scored, they ranked 6th in a 18-team league. They did have Rudy T. and Calvin Murphy; they seem like they would have been a pretty good offensive team, but not neccesarily a historically great one. What's the backstory that makes them rank so high?
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:17 pm
That poor '94 Sonics team... it is both impressive and sad that they rank so high on that list...
Quick question: if the Sonics don't fall to Denver in the first round, do they beat Houston later in the playoffs? They did in '93. Kenny Smith has a theory that in the playoffs in the early 90s the Suns always beat the Sonics, the Sonics always beat the Rockets, and the Rockets always beat the Suns, and that it was more about matchups than overall talent between those clubs.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
The 1975 Rockets had a slow pace, which hurt their PPG numbers. They had the league's best regular season Offensive Efficiency that year, 2nd in FG%, 2nd in FT%. In the playoffs, their offense was ridiculous, 8 points/100 possessions better than the league average. With a better defense, that team would have been dominant.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Rock, Paper, Scissors... I wonder whether we can ID specific "rock-paper-scissors" matchup situations in the past from the season series between teams? Could be an interesting post at some point.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
So Neal, according to your math, in the last 6 years The Phoenix Suns have had five of the ten best offenses in league history. And seeing as how Steve Nash is the common denominator in all of this; that would make Steve Nash the greatest offensive player in NBA history. Really?
I'm a Phoenix resident, and I've been shaking my head at Steve Nash's greatness for six years. I've always thought he might be one of the top ten offensive players of all time, or even top five. But the best? I'll have to think about it. What does your math say?
June 3rd, 2010 at 2:47 am
I uploaded the Bulls' '96 loss to Toronto a couple years ago, here's my YouTube highlight-cap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EruzMMs6wTM
Sorry the quality is so poor, I uploaded it before YouTube allowed HD/HQ videos.
June 3rd, 2010 at 4:02 am
Neil thinks nash is one of the greatest offensive players of all time, i don't know but those numbers are bull to me....it proves nothing. nash never made it to a finals, never will win a title and can't guard anyone.
June 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Brian - It's not that simple, because the Suns' performance also had to do with the system, the coach, the supporting players, etc. But yes, regardless, Nash is one of the greatest offensive players of all time.
And to Larry, I'm not really sure why Nash's individual defensive shortcomings and a lack of team championships -- again, because he and his teammates have been subpar defensively -- would have any bearing on his offensive ability...